Kids

[zanessweater]

Aug 20, 2008 9:47:04 GMT -5 @wienerpoopie said:

Aug 20, 2008 9:25:23 GMT -5 Queenie said:

You all have no idea what you are missing . . . all kids are great, you just have to remember that they are kids. Guess what? You were a kid once too. I guess you were a perfect little angel as a kid? No, you weren't. So why do you expect all other kids to be?? Let them be kids and pray that they have parents that teach them properly and love them. If not, they may be a little angry and act out against other adults. Why do you judge them?? -1 to you zanessweater today and every day i'm on here for starting a thread such as this. Okay, I take that back. I will not -1 you but +1 you because obviously you must not have had a good childhood and need loving. I will also pray for you.

Im sure I was a-hole kid, still am and I had a great childhood but that don’t make me want kids. Actually kids are half the debate here.

Exactly Poopie, I guess you would have had to have read my other rant on "How it's not really the kids I hate but the parents". Yeah, kids can be little shit heads - but when parents are so freaking oblivious - gosh, I can't even finish that sentence in words - all I can say is "I like to do bad things".

Yeah, I was a kid once - and I did bad things, but dang, not like these little winners today. Too many parents are all "eeehhh, we can't spank them - we have time out" and "oh, if we buy them this _____ (feel free to plug in needless pacifier) they will be happy/quiet". It never fails, every time I go into a store or restaurant I either hear a kid screaming or a kid whining. And not because they're hurt, no, b/c they're little jerks. On occasion, I get to see one throw themselves on the floor and hear whine-a-rreah. Happened at Kohl's today on my lunch hour. BIRTH CONTROL PEOPLE.

[zanessweater]

Aug 20, 2008 15:41:15 GMT -5 lovegrenade said:

This is a remotely interesting article about kids and happiness; just in case anyone cares.
www.newsweek.com/id/143792

Great article. If only the families of those who DECIDE to remain childless would read it!!

[lovegrenade]

Aug 20, 2008 16:12:09 GMT -5 brytn said:

Yep, you can show me everything saying that having kids is not fun, not cool, not whatever. But, after you have kids there is absolutely no way that you can imagine not having them. In my opinion, the reasons for the perceived happiness after the kids leave the house is that you have, at least, sheparded your kids into adulthood and can enjoy your new found freedom. Obviously, raising kids is often times tedious but, I cannot imagine anything I would rather do. I laugh harder and feel things much deeper than I ever used to before kids. So, take the Newsweek article and validate your own life but, mine is just fine.

Apparently you didn't read the article. It doesn't "validate" not having kids, and condemn having kids. In fact, the author basically ends by stating the same reasons for having kids as you do. Having or not having kids is a personal decision that everyone has the right to make either way. For a responsible adult, there is no right or wrong choice. I'm choosing not to have kids for a lot of reasons; some selfish, some selfless. I am glad that it is becoming more acceptable to get married and not have kids. Like the article states, that used to be a pretty taboo thing.

[zanessweater]

Aug 21, 2008 8:53:51 GMT -5 lovegrenade said:

Aug 20, 2008 16:12:09 GMT -5 brytn said:

Yep, you can show me everything saying that having kids is not fun, not cool, not whatever. But, after you have kids there is absolutely no way that you can imagine not having them. In my opinion, the reasons for the perceived happiness after the kids leave the house is that you have, at least, sheparded your kids into adulthood and can enjoy your new found freedom. Obviously, raising kids is often times tedious but, I cannot imagine anything I would rather do. I laugh harder and feel things much deeper than I ever used to before kids. So, take the Newsweek article and validate your own life but, mine is just fine.

Apparently you didn't read the article. It doesn't "validate" not having kids, and condemn having kids. In fact, the author basically ends by stating the same reasons for having kids as you do. Having or not having kids is a personal decision that everyone has the right to make either way. For a responsible adult, there is no right or wrong choice. I'm choosing not to have kids for a lot of reasons; some selfish, some selfless. I am glad that it is becoming more acceptable to get married and not have kids. Like the article states, that used to be a pretty taboo thing.

Awww - I think I have a crush on you too Lovegrenade. You and Ayllson.

[lovegrenade]

Awesome, donkey crushes rock!

[Howie Feltersnatch]

Aug 22, 2008 8:13:06 GMT -5 lovegrenade said:

Awesome, donkey crushes rock!

SWEET ASS!

[Allyson]

I guess I wouldn’t mind a pair of small, well-behaved boys.

[brytn]

Aug 21, 2008 8:53:51 GMT -5 lovegrenade said:

Aug 20, 2008 16:12:09 GMT -5 brytn said:

Yep, you can show me everything saying that having kids is not fun, not cool, not whatever. But, after you have kids there is absolutely no way that you can imagine not having them. In my opinion, the reasons for the perceived happiness after the kids leave the house is that you have, at least, sheparded your kids into adulthood and can enjoy your new found freedom. Obviously, raising kids is often times tedious but, I cannot imagine anything I would rather do. I laugh harder and feel things much deeper than I ever used to before kids. So, take the Newsweek article and validate your own life but, mine is just fine.

Apparently you didn't read the article. It doesn't "validate" not having kids, and condemn having kids. In fact, the author basically ends by stating the same reasons for having kids as you do. Having or not having kids is a personal decision that everyone has the right to make either way. For a responsible adult, there is no right or wrong choice. I'm choosing not to have kids for a lot of reasons; some selfish, some selfless. I am glad that it is becoming more acceptable to get married and not have kids. Like the article states, that used to be a pretty taboo thing.

Yeah you are probably right. I scanned the article but, just got irritated when it said that people without kids are more happy. So, I kind of reacted to that. If people want to have kids great, if they don't that is great too. I would not be happier without kids but, I would have a hell of a lot more money.

[landmammaldolphin]

I have a 4month old and I wouldn't trade her for the world!!! It's amazing and we can't wait to have 3 more.

[lovegrenade]

Aug 22, 2008 8:25:01 GMT -5 brytn said:

Yeah you are probably right. I scanned the article but, just got irritated when it said that people without kids are more happy. So, I kind of reacted to that. If people want to have kids great, if they don't that is great too. I would not be happier without kids but, I would have a hell of a lot more money.

I think you touched on the big reason that a lot of parents get upset by people who decide not to have kids. Money. For example, one of my dad's best friends since he was a kid, decided not to have kids. Him and his wife live in a beautiful house on a lake, they retired wealthy at 50, and they spend four months out of the year traveling the world. I know my dad gets awfully jealous of it at times, but I also know that he wouldn't trade his three boys for it either. At the same time, I'm sure there were times when we were growing up that he would have swapped us in a heart beat. Personally, I think I'll live a much happier life being the childless, wealthy, retired guy on a lake, who travels the world for 4 months a year.

[jaydethespaz]

Aug 20, 2008 9:45:18 GMT -5 Howie Feltersnatch said:

Aug 20, 2008 9:31:06 GMT -5 plungerhand said:

Nothing like waking up in the middle of the night only to find out your child has soiled their bed, and then decided to crawl into your bed...

nothing that bad.....she's only like 3 months old.... so it's more along the lines of sitting on my lap and destroying her last white onesie (sp)

you just gotta hate that. my daughter does that all the time too! but she two now and when she takes a crap, she jumps up and down on her butt and smooshes it to make me mad.

[Bjorn Again]

My son hates sleeping alone when he's sick so sometimes he gets to sleep with us. I feel bad becuase he feels so horrible so I'll let him cuddle. Once when he was about three we woke up to him puking all over the bed while he cried. Times like that suck but the rest make up for it.

[airhornahole]

Our don't sleep with us. But I love being woken up to ... "Dad, I don't feel so goo ... blahhhhh" All over the carpet. Steam cleaning at 2:30 in the morning is just what I love.

But like you said, it's worth it.

[wingospagettio]

My little girl is almost 4 and starting preschool next week. While I should get pissed at her when she cries from the top of the steps "DADDY, DADDY!" at 2:30 am because her cat won't get out of her room, I don't because she knows that her Daddy will take care of her. And that is something I will miss greatly when the time comes.

[Mad Dog]

I have two high school aged kids. One girl who is a senior this year and one boy who is a Junior. I love them more than anything, but since my divorce in 2004, especially for the first couple of years, has absolutely destroyed me emotionally.

In the months leading up to my divorce I was clinically depressed to the point where I would burst into tears with no warning and was almost impossible to work. I seriously contemplated suicide for a couple of months, but I couldn't do it because of the hurt and hardship it would have put on my kids. But I really was that point.

Over the years since my divorce, I have had to force myself to think of other things, anything I find interesting, to take my mind off my perceived loss. When I was still married, I spent every available moment with my kids, just being with them. I have literally spent hours upon hours watching them at soccer practice or band practice. My son, at the time was one of the top 10 defensive soccer players in the state of Michigan and my daughter is a very talented flutist and saxophonist.

It is so hard, to sit in my little apartment, and contemplate wast could have or should have been, or what we, I, should have done different but it is too late now. I still see my kids but not even a quarter as much. My daughter still has band, but she also is working two part time jobs along with high school and I try to take her on father-daughter dates as much as is possible. I see my son more often. He stays with me every other weekend. I have tried to be as much a big brother to him as a Dad, and he is truly my best friend.

[8ballquarterpocket]

Aug 30, 2008 10:04:23 GMT -5 Mad Dog said:

I have two high school aged kids. One girl who is a senior this year and one boy who is a Junior. I love them more than anything, but since my divorce in 2004, especially for the first couple of years, has absolutely destroyed me emotionally.

In the months leading up to my divorce I was clinically depressed to the point where I would burst into tears with no warning and was almost impossible to work. I seriously contemplated suicide for a couple of months, but I couldn't do it because of the hurt and hardship it would have put on my kids. But I really was that point.

Over the years since my divorce, I have had to force myself to think of other things, anything I find interesting, to take my mind off my perceived loss. When I was still married, I spent every available moment with my kids, just being with them. I have literally spent hours upon hours watching them at soccer practice or band practice. My son, at the time was one of the top 10 defensive soccer players in the state of Michigan and my daughter is a very talented flutist and saxophonist.

It is so hard, to sit in my little apartment, and contemplate wast could have or should have been, or what we, I, should have done different but it is too late now. I still see my kids but not even a quarter as much. My daughter still has band, but she also is working two part time jobs along with high school and I try to take her on father-daughter dates as much as is possible. I see my son more often. He stays with me every other weekend. I have tried to be as much a big brother to him as a Dad, and he is truly my best friend. Your are so full of shit.

[Mad Dog]

Aug 30, 2008 14:56:36 GMT -5 @8ballquarterpocket said:

Aug 30, 2008 10:04:23 GMT -5 Mad Dog said:

I have two high school aged kids. One girl who is a senior this year and one boy who is a Junior. I love them more than anything, but since my divorce in 2004, especially for the first couple of years, has absolutely destroyed me emotionally.

In the months leading up to my divorce I was clinically depressed to the point where I would burst into tears with no warning and was almost impossible to work. I seriously contemplated suicide for a couple of months, but I couldn't do it because of the hurt and hardship it would have put on my kids. But I really was that point.

Over the years since my divorce, I have had to force myself to think of other things, anything I find interesting, to take my mind off my perceived loss. When I was still married, I spent every available moment with my kids, just being with them. I have literally spent hours upon hours watching them at soccer practice or band practice. My son, at the time was one of the top 10 defensive soccer players in the state of Michigan and my daughter is a very talented flutist and saxophonist.

It is so hard, to sit in my little apartment, and contemplate wast could have or should have been, or what we, I, should have done different but it is too late now. I still see my kids but not even a quarter as much. My daughter still has band, but she also is working two part time jobs along with high school and I try to take her on father-daughter dates as much as is possible. I see my son more often. He stays with me every other weekend. I have tried to be as much a big brother to him as a Dad, and he is truly my best friend. Your are so full of shit.

Your a horrible Piece Of Sh*t and a truly horrible excuse for a human being. You have absolutely NO RIGHT to F with my post like that. How dare you you bitch!!! What gives you the F'n right to sit in judgment over anyone but yourself. Biff if you read this I hope you ban her.

[jaydethespaz]

don't worry maddogjls74 i smited her for you. what a beeotch. I totally hear you too man.

[Mad Dog]

Aug 30, 2008 22:33:40 GMT -5 jaydethespaz said:

don't worry maddogjls74 i smited her for you. what a beeotch. I totally hear you too man.

Thanks jayspaz. I know I'm not the most popular person on the board but in the spirit of this board, I try to be as honest and heart felt with my posts as I can. It's OK for people not to like my opinion, I'm used to it. But for her to come in and randomly blast me once every week and a half or so is is a chickensh*t thing to do. exult.

[jaydethespaz]

Aug 31, 2008 8:03:59 GMT -5 Mad Dog said:

Aug 30, 2008 22:33:40 GMT -5 jaydethespaz said:

don't worry maddogjls74 i smited her for you. what a beeotch. I totally hear you too man.

Thanks jayspaz. I know I'm not the most popular person on the board but in the spirit of this board, I try to be as honest and heart felt with my posts as I can. It's OK for people not to like my opinion, I'm used to it. But for her to come in and randomly blast me once every week and a half or so is is a chickensh*t thing to do. exult.

Thank You for that. And hey, she also pulled a weiner poopie and left cuz we got so pissed at her!