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Post by Bo Nerdasuck on Sept 8, 2008 8:07:19 GMT -5
This was discussed on air this morning, I was in line to speak about the subject, but they ended the segment.
If I have my facts straight, and I am pretty sure I do, the point behind this experiment is to collide atoms together at nearly the speed of light in hopes to find the Higgs Boson particle. Or "GOD PARTICLE"
It is theorized that this particle exists, mathematically speaking it should exist in everything.
And the proof of this particle would be a giant step in the search for the Unified Theory of Everything. Which was what Einstein was working on for years before he died.
It would link electromagnitism, the strong, and the weak nuclear forces. It would leave out only gravity. But it would help explain why gravity is so much weaker than the other 3 forces. Gravity is weak, we can stand, lift our arms, pick stuff up, but if we fall 3 stories electromagnitism will show it's power once you splat into the ground. (the ground displays the power, not the gravity pulling you in the fall)
Anyways, on the point of the mini black holes that will be produced...and yes, they probably will. The good news is that they will dissapate so rapidly that without HIGHLY technical instruments you'd never even know it happened. Charged particles collide around us in space all the time, and in theory creating these same type phenomenon. i.e. Highly charged particles zooming at us from sunbursts, smashing into our magnetosphere can create such events.
But I'm not worried. I would be very surprised if we humans can even produce enough energy to smash them together fast enough to produce the effects that happen in space. There's a slim chance, but very very very slim. And even so, it's not going to be anything to worry about. They're created, they vanish, particles go zooming around.
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Post by Jo on Sept 8, 2008 8:11:42 GMT -5
if you add vinegar to the volcano it goes boom.
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Post by mainerliser on Sept 8, 2008 8:13:26 GMT -5
if you add vinegar to the volcano it goes boom. Ha! +1
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Post by airhornahole on Sept 8, 2008 8:15:17 GMT -5
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We're all going to die!!
Oh, wait I read it the second time. Now I'm not scared.
It woul dbe cool if it does prove Einstien's theory. I watched a show about it a few months ago. That is interesting shit. It still amazes me that people even think about stuff like that.
Now, if I could just find my keys.
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Post by Bo Nerdasuck on Sept 8, 2008 8:38:38 GMT -5
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We're all going to die!! Oh, wait I read it the second time. Now I'm not scared. It woul dbe cool if it does prove Einstien's theory. I watched a show about it a few months ago. That is interesting shit. It still amazes me that people even think about stuff like that. Now, if I could just find my keys. What's crazy is that people have been thinking about this stuff for ages. Not just recently. That's what is wild, yesterdays "science fiction" turns into todays "science fact." It just takes someone to come up with the idea of it, and if it's mathematically functional, then someone will, sooner or later, turn it into a working product.
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Post by boizalynne on Sept 8, 2008 9:08:34 GMT -5
They are using the particle collider for SO many things... that is just one of the many things they are trying to prove by colliding atoms... My hubby and I just watched something last night on how they are using the particle collider to figure out the quantum theory of gravity (yeah, we watch the Science Channel for fun... what?!
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Post by airhornahole on Sept 8, 2008 9:41:19 GMT -5
Science chennel, history channel, food network, animal planet, ...
That's all I watch. Plus FSN Detroit for Wings updates.
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Post by Bo Nerdasuck on Sept 8, 2008 9:48:32 GMT -5
They are using the particle collider for SO many things... that is just one of the many things they are trying to prove by colliding atoms... My hubby and I just watched something last night on how they are using the particle collider to figure out the quantum theory of gravity (yeah, we watch the Science Channel for fun... what?! Yes, there are other objectives as well, but the main objective is in fact the Higgs Boson particle. I think they may also be checking into some things for the M-theory or better named String Theory. Either way, it had better not create a big black hole or it will suck, litterally.
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Post by airhornahole on Sept 8, 2008 9:53:13 GMT -5
They are using the particle collider for SO many things... that is just one of the many things they are trying to prove by colliding atoms... My hubby and I just watched something last night on how they are using the particle collider to figure out the quantum theory of gravity (yeah, we watch the Science Channel for fun... what?! Yes, there are other objectives as well, but the main objective is in fact the Higgs Boson particle. I think they may also be checking into some things for the M-theory or better named String Theory. Either way, it had better not create a big black hole or it will suck, litterally. If it does, we will all become real close friends. ;D
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Post by elranito on Sept 8, 2008 10:05:04 GMT -5
Call me crazy, but doesn't it seem like if there is any chance that when you turn something on that it could destroy the world, that maybe... you should leave it off?
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Post by airhornahole on Sept 8, 2008 10:06:34 GMT -5
Call me crazy, but doesn't it seem like if there is any chance that when you turn something on that it could destroy the world, that maybe... you should leave it off? Puss. Is that what the Germans thought when they bombed Pearl Harbor? No. ;D
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Post by Bo Nerdasuck on Sept 8, 2008 11:21:37 GMT -5
Call me crazy, but doesn't it seem like if there is any chance that when you turn something on that it could destroy the world, that maybe... you should leave it off? Puss. Is that what the Germans thought when they bombed Pearl Harbor? No. ;D HAAHA! I get your point here, but it was the Jap's that attacked us, not the Germans. I see no problem with science and learning the truth about the universe, but sometimes scientists get so wrapped up in whether they CAN do something, they neglect to think of whether they SHOULD. It has been said many times that Einstein would have never let the world know about e=mc 2 if he'd have known they'd figure out how to make bombs with the formula. I hope he doesn't go 2 for 2. lol
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Post by airhornahole on Sept 8, 2008 12:00:06 GMT -5
Puss. Is that what the Germans thought when they bombed Pearl Harbor? No. ;D HAAHA! I get your point here, but it was the Jap's that attacked us, not the Germans. Have you ever seen the movie Animal House?
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Post by ChevSSCamaro67 on Sept 8, 2008 13:36:51 GMT -5
I'm all for science and I say go for it but bad things usually happen when people try to play God.
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Post by boizalynne on Sept 8, 2008 14:11:51 GMT -5
They are using the particle collider for SO many things... that is just one of the many things they are trying to prove by colliding atoms... My hubby and I just watched something last night on how they are using the particle collider to figure out the quantum theory of gravity (yeah, we watch the Science Channel for fun... what?! Yes, there are other objectives as well, but the main objective is in fact the Higgs Boson particle. I think they may also be checking into some things for the M-theory or better named String Theory. Either way, it had better not create a big black hole or it will suck, litterally. LOL I was thinking the SAME THING!!!! They keep saying things like "The Particle Excellerater is creating conditions as close to the big bang as we have ever seen..." All I can think is "Yeah... and we all know what happened the LAST time!!!"
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Post by Bo Nerdasuck on Sept 8, 2008 14:28:00 GMT -5
No joke. Hopefully everything will be fine, but like in any big project there's the chance for an explosion.
They had best hope that neither a black hole nor anti-matter is created in this process, either way would be bad.
But if it works the way they're wanting it to work then we'll be closer than ever to proving that Einstein was indeed correct, that you can in fact describe the entirety of the universe in one simple equation.
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Post by potthole on Sept 8, 2008 17:30:01 GMT -5
Puss. Is that what the Germans thought when they bombed Pearl Harbor? No. ;D HAAHA! I get your point here, but it was the Jap's that attacked us, not the Germans. Wow, that one went RIGHT over your head!
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Post by lovegrenade on Sept 9, 2008 8:47:14 GMT -5
I'm pro-hadron-colliders. I think we should build a lot more of them, then we'll have them all fight. Hadron vs Hadron; everybody wins...
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Post by plungerhand on Sept 9, 2008 9:33:18 GMT -5
HAAHA! I get your point here, but it was the Jap's that attacked us, not the Germans. Have you ever seen the movie Animal House? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- D-Day: War's over, man. Wormer dropped the big one. Bluto: Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no! Otter: Germans? Boon: Forget it, he's rolling. Bluto: And it ain't over now. 'Cause when the goin' gets tough... [thinks hard] Bluto: the tough get goin'! Who's with me? Let's go! [runs out, alone; then returns] Bluto: What the eff happened to the Delta I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Bluto, we might get in trouble." Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Wormer, he's a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer... Bo, If you haven't seen Animal House stop whatever you are doing and don't come back until you have memorized at least one of a hundred classic scenes...
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Post by airhornahole on Sept 9, 2008 9:43:13 GMT -5
Have you ever seen the movie Animal House? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- D-Day: War's over, man. Wormer dropped the big one. Bluto: Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no! Otter: Germans? Boon: Forget it, he's rolling. Bluto: And it ain't over now. 'Cause when the goin' gets tough... [thinks hard] Bluto: the tough get goin'! Who's with me? Let's go! [runs out, alone; then returns] Bluto: What the eff happened to the Delta I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Bluto, we might get in trouble." Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Wormer, he's a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer... Bo, If you haven't seen Animal House stop whatever you are doing and don't come back until you have memorized at least one of a hundred classic scenes... Thank you for letting me know I'm not crazy.
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Post by Bo Nerdasuck on Sept 9, 2008 9:55:24 GMT -5
Well, I guess that's what I get for trying to tell everyone about a particle accelerator.
haha!
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Post by airhornahole on Sept 9, 2008 10:23:04 GMT -5
Well, I guess that's what I get for trying to tell everyone about a particle accelerator. haha! The particle accelerator is cool. It's the fact that you haven't seen one of the all time classic movies in history.
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Post by witch1 on Sept 9, 2008 10:45:37 GMT -5
Thanks for clearing this up for me! I only caught just a small part of this yesterday and wasn't sure what it was all about. Thats what I get for not paying attention.
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Post by Mud Room Donna on Sept 9, 2008 12:31:40 GMT -5
So what time over there are they turning it on? I want time to make my tin foil hat and sit in the basement.
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Post by boizalynne on Sept 9, 2008 13:52:11 GMT -5
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Post by Torque on Sept 9, 2008 18:00:52 GMT -5
If it does, we will all become real close friends. ;D ;D Ha, I really did laugh out loud I'm all for science and I say go for it but bad things usually happen when people try to play God. Meh, I'm not so satisfied with God playing God
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Post by Mud Room Donna on Sept 9, 2008 18:31:50 GMT -5
FISTOR! WE NEED YOU NOW MORE THAN EVER!!
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Post by providencecrow on Sept 9, 2008 18:45:52 GMT -5
I hope they do find the Higgs Boson, mostly to just sit back and watch all the religions around the world fight and claim it proof of their particular god.
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Post by airhornahole on Sept 10, 2008 6:26:55 GMT -5
Are we all ready to die today?
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Post by airhornahole on Sept 10, 2008 9:47:05 GMT -5
AP- "The world's largest particle collider passed its first major tests by firing two beams of protons in opposite directions around a 17-mile (27-kilometer) underground ring Wednesday in what scientists hope is the next great step to understanding the makeup of the universe"
We must be in Heaven. Or is this Hell?
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