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Post by potthole on Oct 26, 2008 9:30:23 GMT -5
Eh, it's a super-down year for Michigan, no big deal. Hope you feel good about that, Sparty, because you still haven't shown that you can beat a top-ranked team.
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Post by houseboat on Oct 26, 2008 16:39:37 GMT -5
Eh, it's a super-down year for Michigan, no big deal. Hope you feel good about that, Sparty, because you still haven't shown that you can beat a top-ranked team. That's a cop out and you know it. Michigan still has had dozens of years in a row with top level 4 and 5 star recruits. It's on the coach to adapt to the players he has, as he builds his system. It's not like he stepped into a situation where a team hadn't won in 10 years. He stepped into a good situation, with talented players, and has done exactly dick with them. |
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Post by raudy on Oct 26, 2008 19:21:21 GMT -5
State's first win vs. Michigan since the "playclock/TJ Duckett catch game" (in East Lansing btw). Which if my math serves me right it's been 7 years. Enjoy it sparty, it'll be 7 more years of losing, and midseason flops just like always
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Post by houseboat on Oct 26, 2008 20:16:07 GMT -5
State's first win vs. Michigan since the "playclock/TJ Duckett catch game" (in East Lansing btw). Which if my math serves me right it's been 7 years. Enjoy it sparty, it'll be 7 more years of losing, and midseason flops just like always Way to defend anything i said francis. Just go back to the old stale "spartan bob", and midseason flop card. 1. Nobody denies we have had terrible coaching since 2000. Saban was rebuilding what Perles destroyed at the end, left for money, and left the program in a state of flux. The admin made the wrong hire in bobby williams, and compounded it with JLS. Dantonio came into a true rebuilding situation, unlike RR. 2. While the midseason "flop" has been described ad nauseum, how about UM's first four game flop. Just about every year since the co national championship, you guys have dropped a game early in the year to essentially take you out of MNC contention. 3. We're talking about 2008, not 2001-2007, so get over it. |
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Post by potthole on Oct 27, 2008 5:38:26 GMT -5
Eh, it's a super-down year for Michigan, no big deal. Hope you feel good about that, Sparty, because you still haven't shown that you can beat a top-ranked team. That's a cop out and you know it. Michigan still has had dozens of years in a row with top level 4 and 5 star recruits. It's on the coach to adapt to the players he has, as he builds his system. It's not like he stepped into a situation where a team hadn't won in 10 years. He stepped into a good situation, with talented players, and has done exactly dick with them. Michigan has one, ONE, returning starter on offense from last year. Not only that, but the players are learning a totally new offense from anything they've run in the past. It's a rebuilding year for the team, no matter how you look at it. Also, I don't think it's a cop-out to point out the fact that State still hasn't been able to beat a top-ranked opponent this season. Sure, Northwestern was ranked at the time, but I think most would agree that they aren't top-tier talent. I will be the first to say congrats to the State fans I know. This year, they were the better team. But to make it seem as though beating UM was a super difficult thing is just a tad foolish in my opinion. |
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Post by houseboat on Oct 27, 2008 5:48:44 GMT -5
That's a cop out and you know it. Michigan still has had dozens of years in a row with top level 4 and 5 star recruits. It's on the coach to adapt to the players he has, as he builds his system. It's not like he stepped into a situation where a team hadn't won in 10 years. He stepped into a good situation, with talented players, and has done exactly dick with them. Michigan has one, ONE, returning starter on offense from last year. Not only that, but the players are learning a totally new offense from anything they've run in the past. It's a rebuilding year for the team, no matter how you look at it. Also, I don't think it's a cop-out to point out the fact that State still hasn't been able to beat a top-ranked opponent this season. Sure, Northwestern was ranked at the time, but I think most would agree that they aren't top-tier talent. I will be the first to say congrats to the State fans I know. This year, they were the better team. But to make it seem as though beating UM was a super difficult thing is just a tad foolish in my opinion. How many people did they return on defense? When MD took over MSU, he had hardly any returning players, a defense that got torched repeatedly the year before, and the media still beat him up over it. RR gets a giant pass for rebuilding? Even though um is still loaded with talent? Seems like hypocracy. RR is michigan's JLS, as hard as that one will be to swallow for the "loyal" michigan fans. |
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Post by Rock Monster on Oct 27, 2008 7:09:18 GMT -5
8-)Congrats Sparty, you beat a bad 2-5 Michigan team  |
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Post by airhornahole on Oct 27, 2008 9:42:17 GMT -5
It doesn't matter the circumstances or history. A win is a win and a loss is a loss.
Congratulations to MSU.
Hopefully, this will mean better games in the future and a strong Big 10 conference.
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Post by The Biff Lebowski on Oct 27, 2008 10:27:52 GMT -5
8-)Congrats Sparty, you beat a bad 2-5 Michigan team QFT, if this were any other year Sparty could pound his chest but this year is a little different. That said, scUM fans would be raising hell if scUM beat Sparty. I almost feel bed rooting against scUM this year. I like them to be at least competitive when they lose. |
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Post by houseboat on Oct 27, 2008 15:25:46 GMT -5
8-)Congrats Sparty, you beat a bad 2-5 Michigan team I bet you're the same guy that wouldn't celebrate a win over OSU, because you've, "been there before."  |
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Post by mayorofawesometown on Oct 27, 2008 18:38:38 GMT -5
Michigan State fans - both those on this board and those I meet in person - blow me away.
I'm a hardcore U of M fans. But I don't want to see the Spartans lose every game. I just want to see U of M beat them. Other than than in a perfect world U of M would be undefeated every year and State would only have one loss.
What amazes me is that State fans seem to be sore winners. Congrats. You got a win. After Mike Hart's comments last year I'm sure this was a sweet victory for you. You earned it and deserved it as much as I hate the fact that my team lost.
I'm not saying U of M fans don't deserve any blame but all I see now is MSU fans running around trying to talk up their victory like it was even more impressive than it was. "How dare you say this was a rebuilding year for U of M!" Crap like that. Well, it was. You got a good win but you got it over a crappy team. That's why going into the game I never expected Michigan to win.
If some Michigan fans want to be petty and downgrade you then just let them. Move on. At the end of the day you can still just say, "scoreboard" and be done with it. The problem is that if two sides are fighting no matter who started it the side that won the game is going to look like the babies.
Focus on trying to finish the season strong because after that you'll have about 10 months to think about the next chapter in the Michigan/Michigan State rivalry.
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Post by potthole on Oct 27, 2008 18:58:54 GMT -5
Very good post, +1.
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