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Post by plungerhand on Jan 6, 2009 21:16:51 GMT -5
It's only been the last hundred years or so that we've not "fit in the balance of this planet". It's called the advent of technology. People have been abusing the planet since man spawned from ape. From fire to bio and chemical hazards. The only difference now, is the number of people.
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Post by Philly Mike on Jan 6, 2009 23:10:45 GMT -5
I feel that such huge claims like religion UFOs and things you need huge evidence. I have yet to see any actual proof of any god, jesus, nature spirits, zeus or whatever you have. Yes a theory can be made, but such things as god destroying a whole group of towns because of deviant behavior seems a little far fetched to me. The concept of some intelligent being manipulating events and such just seems too weird. Along with the fact that this being suddenly decided not to be active anymore. Yes science has a lot of unexplained theory but the idea of parallel universes colliding and the energy of that creates our universe seems a lot more reasonable than a being just setting down and deciding out of now where to create things just for the hell of it. Now the whole idea of the big bang can be completely wrong and anyone who follows science knows this, but with religion you are told one thing is the truth and that is it, but as things are discovered that one truth changes but it is acted as if the belief was the right choice from the beginning.
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Post by The Biff Lebowski on Jan 7, 2009 7:33:36 GMT -5
What do atheists say when they're having an orgasm?
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Post by Philly Mike on Jan 7, 2009 9:46:29 GMT -5
What do atheists say when they're having an orgasm? YHATZEE!!!!!
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Post by dingdongyo on Jan 7, 2009 10:00:01 GMT -5
What do atheists say when they're having an orgasm? YHATZEE!!!!! PLUMPY!!! i vote that this thread continues in this direction and never looks back.
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Post by plungerhand on Jan 7, 2009 10:00:30 GMT -5
What do atheists say when they're having an orgasm? [glow=red,2,300]BINGO![/glow]
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Post by providencecrow on Jan 7, 2009 17:38:13 GMT -5
PLUMPY!!! i vote that this thread continues in this direction and never looks back. As an atheist, i agree on both points made in the post.
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Post by Philly Mike on Jan 8, 2009 11:55:03 GMT -5
PLUMPY!!! i vote that this thread continues in this direction and never looks back. As an atheist, i agree on both points made in the post. yes, and other acceptable terms would be. SHAZAM!!! BAM!!! *rebel yell* Oh my Darwin. TOUCHDOWN!!! KABOOBIE!! or just the standard grunting.
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Post by The Biff Lebowski on Jan 8, 2009 12:46:34 GMT -5
I have a story that relates to the turn this thread took but I don't think any of you want to know that much about me.
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Post by Mad Dog on Jan 8, 2009 19:06:11 GMT -5
I have a story that relates to the turn this thread took but I don't think any of you want to know that much about me. Would it be funny?? I call show code.
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Post by Philly Mike on Jan 8, 2009 23:25:23 GMT -5
I have a story that relates to the turn this thread took but I don't think any of you want to know that much about me. Would it be funny?? I call show code. yeah i would have to say this falls under board code.
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Post by The Biff Lebowski on Jan 9, 2009 10:48:17 GMT -5
Allright, long story short. I worked with a guy who would yell "YUP!" at the top of his lungs a lot. It was really loud because he used to be a metal singer who could project his voice well.
My roommate and I decided that the next time we were with out girlfriends that we would yell "YUP!" at the top of our lungs when "it" happened.
A) It was actually rather difficult to do B) It was hilarious to listen to from the other room C) Neither of our girlfriends knew what the eff was happening.
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Post by dblock5107 on Jan 20, 2009 17:56:03 GMT -5
<<Atheist all the way!
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Post by Mark the Valet on Jan 22, 2009 13:30:13 GMT -5
Agnostic here. I'm like the Hotwings of religion -- I never clearly answer yes or no. But in reality, it's not that simple for me. I'm not denying the existence of a higher power...I simply just DON'T KNOW. Evolution also plays a huge factor in this for me. It's hard to deny evolution when it's all around us. Think back to the 1800s when humans were riding horses to get around. Now think of the early 1900s when the automobile was invented and commercialized. Hell, think back to the 1980s when cell phones looked like this: Nowadays, we have cameras and texting and all sorts of other things on our cellphones. Call it progress or advancement if you want, but that's all evolution is: progress.
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Post by Philly Mike on Jan 22, 2009 15:34:14 GMT -5
Allright, long story short. I worked with a guy who would yell "YUP!" at the top of his lungs a lot. It was really loud because he used to be a metal singer who could project his voice well. My roommate and I decided that the next time we were with out girlfriends that we would yell "YUP!" at the top of our lungs when "it" happened. A) It was actually rather difficult to do B) It was hilarious to listen to from the other room C) Neither of our girlfriends knew what the eff was happening. lol I bet they didn't stay with you guys long. Either that or they were reeeeeeeeeeaallly understanding.
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Post by Philly Mike on Jan 22, 2009 15:39:03 GMT -5
Agnostic here. I'm like the Hotwings of religion -- I never clearly answer yes or no. But in reality, it's not that simple for me. I'm not denying the existence of a higher power...I simply just DON'T KNOW. Evolution also plays a huge factor in this for me. It's hard to deny evolution when it's all around us. Think back to the 1800s when humans were riding horses to get around. Now think of the early 1900s when the automobile was invented and commercialized. Hell, think back to the 1980s when cell phones looked like this: Nowadays, we have cameras and texting and all sorts of other things on our cellphones. Call it progress or advancement if you want, but that's all evolution is: progress. I get your point, even though technological advancement isn't exactly a good example of evolution. A better example could be to look at people themselves. Used to be looooooong ago people actually used the wisdom teeth as we call them now, then we didn't need them so our skulls are as we have them now, in which those teeth become troublesome for us and we need them to be pulled. Now as I have found out from a dentist, some people aren't even growing wisdom teeth anymore. This is one of the most physically evident examples of evolution that we can actually see happening within recorded history, on top of it all within our species.
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Post by plungerhand on Jan 22, 2009 16:12:39 GMT -5
an even better example would be some of those tribal folks they dig out of the middle of Africa..... tell me they don't resemble Cro-magnum or Neanderthal man more than modern man.
and what about another race of people's fascination with clothes and fashion... It's because their people haven't been wearing clothes ( and still don't know how, IMO), for very long...
* which way does the visor (the thing that shields the eyes), go on a baseball cap?*
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Post by Philly Mike on Jan 22, 2009 17:29:49 GMT -5
an even better example would be some of those tribal folks they dig out of the middle of Africa..... tell me they don't resemble Cro-magnum or Neanderthal man more than modern man. and what about another race of people's fascination with clothes and fashion... It's because their people haven't been wearing clothes ( and still don't know how, IMO), for very long... * which way does the visor (the thing that shields the eyes), go on a baseball cap?* hey now, I wear baseball caps backwards.
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Post by Rock Monster on Jan 23, 2009 11:02:16 GMT -5
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Post by speedbump on Jan 26, 2009 14:09:55 GMT -5
an even better example would be some of those tribal folks they dig out of the middle of Africa..... tell me they don't resemble Cro-magnum or Neanderthal man more than modern man. and what about another race of people's fascination with clothes and fashion... It's because their people haven't been wearing clothes ( and still don't know how, IMO), for very long... * which way does the visor (the thing that shields the eyes), go on a baseball cap?* Why you give a fuck which way someone wheres a hat is a better question.
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Post by plungerhand on Jan 26, 2009 15:02:08 GMT -5
an even better example would be some of those tribal folks they dig out of the middle of Africa..... tell me they don't resemble Cro-magnum or Neanderthal man more than modern man. and what about another race of people's fascination with clothes and fashion... It's because their people haven't been wearing clothes ( and still don't know how, IMO), for very long... * which way does the visor (the thing that shields the eyes), go on a baseball cap?* Why you give a eff which way someone wheres a hat is a better question. awwww, hit a little close to home?
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Post by The Biff Lebowski on Jan 26, 2009 18:06:07 GMT -5
People who wear their hats backwards or tilted are asking me to judge their general intelligence.
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Post by speedbump on Jan 26, 2009 23:26:54 GMT -5
Why you give a eff which way someone wheres a hat is a better question. awwww, hit a little close to home? The only time I've ever worn a hat was when I played baseball. Way to dodge the point of my post though, let me try again. Why do you care how someone wheres a hat?
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Post by dingdongyo on Jan 27, 2009 8:31:18 GMT -5
People who wear their hats backwards or tilted are asking me to judge their general intelligence. i wear my hat backwards sometimes, too. oh... right. nevermind.
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Post by plungerhand on Jan 27, 2009 10:34:47 GMT -5
awwww, hit a little close to home? The only time I've ever worn a hat was when I played baseball. Way to dodge the point of my post though, let me try again. Why do you care how someone wheres a hat? the point being discussed was evolution. My offhand example was a reference to a culture and their interpretation of how clothes are worn and was poking fun. Me caring never entered the equation. Feel free to breakdown all my posts and offer criticism at any time..
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Post by Mad Dog on Jan 27, 2009 21:32:04 GMT -5
the point being discussed was evolution. My offhand example was a reference to a culture and their interpretation of how clothes are worn and was poking fun. Me caring never entered the equation. Feel free to breakdown all my posts and offer criticism at any time.. Does God endorse evolution?? I think not. Just ask Jimmy Swaggart Almost 95% of all your "examples" are offhand Plungee The "hats backward" generation is very, very touchy about how people perceive their clothing style and think that everyone else is dumb by actually using the bills of there cap for what they were meant for. Queenie must have took you seriously Actually Plungee, You don't strike me as the type that gives two hoots in hell about how kids wear their ball caps
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Post by plungerhand on Jan 27, 2009 22:39:39 GMT -5
A wise man an idi0t once said..... Besides message board fights are funny if your not the one involved in them, and sometimes even if you are!!!
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Post by Mad Dog on Jan 28, 2009 6:24:16 GMT -5
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Post by Krystal on Jan 30, 2009 14:43:34 GMT -5
I always enjoyed the pagan gods of mythology... Whether they be Greek, Roman, Celtic, or Norse. Atleast when something bad happened you knew a god was pissed off at you and why. There was usually a reason people suffered, even if someone made it up.
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Post by powerface71 on Feb 8, 2009 18:46:27 GMT -5
okay its something you know, feel deep in your soul (bcuz you have one right? if you believe in God) and trust has always been there. is it something you can kinda believe in or is it all or nothing? and what if you were raised to believe in God and evolution? can you? so heres the deal. my wife was raised in a big christian family (her brother is the current interim pastor/ her grandma plays the piano/etc.) shes not pushy about or nothing. i mean she or any of them are zealots of it or nothing... just normal folk in a small town. anyways my wife would like me to have a strong faith and just believe... which i do and always have (just never went to church, parents were hippies, have questions with the whole evo part...etc.) anyways again... i have a lot of good things going on in my life in the last few years. which i do feel blessed about (kinda weird feeling blessed, but thats how i feel...blessed) annd then... it snowed quite a bit yesterday and all i have is a crappy shovel and a long drive way(which really is a snow blower type of driveway). so i go to buy a new big shovel and all the good ones are sold out, yes i went to three places. i don't get one, go back home shovel my deck and patio area with my crappy ass shovel. *shakes head at driveway* not doing that with this POS. later that nite me and the wife and kid are eating dinner and hear the neighbor snow blowing his driveway and before you know hes in my driveway and asks if i could us this? hell yes i say and thanks. he says put it in your garage when your done i'll get it tomorrow, cool. cool i say. so he comes over today and how it worked for me. awesome and thanks again. no problem he says. go ahead and keep in your garage bcuz i'm sure we'll both need it next time it snows... and it will and i know where it is, if it don't take up any space for you? hell no i say, no problem and thanks again. soooooooooooo, i was just out there smoking and looked at my nice clean driveway and thought... God will provide. and believed it. whew! that was long windedGreat story. Faith is key. If you believe in God and give yourself over to him fully, he does indeed work miracles. Although at times they might seem like just a small detail. But in the end you will understand. A true believer has a keen sight for these little details. The words of God will keep you from sin, or sin will keep you from the words. "What is impossible with men, is possible with God" Just my opinion. Thank you for starting the thread. It is a great subject of discussion.
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