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Post by FUCKTARD ! on Jul 10, 2008 19:05:54 GMT -5
What one thing is destroying this country ?
I'll say illegal immigration. Go the F back !
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Post by Zee on Jul 10, 2008 20:40:26 GMT -5
What one thing is destroying this country ? I'll say illegal immigration. Go the F back ! Some of my ancestors immigrated to the United States illegally. Should I 'Go the F back' too? What makes you think that this country is being destroyed in the first place? |
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Post by FUCKTARD ! on Jul 10, 2008 21:59:54 GMT -5
What one thing is destroying this country ? I'll say illegal immigration. Go the F back ! Some of my ancestors immigrated to the United States illegally. Should I 'Go the F back' too? What makes you think that this country is being destroyed in the first place? Sure why not I'm sure wherever your ancestors are from will welcome you with open arms. 4.00 gas, lack of jobs, affirmative action, take your pick, i'm sure there are others. |
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Post by plungerhand on Jul 10, 2008 22:08:18 GMT -5
What one thing is destroying this country ?
Why everybody knows it's that darn rat music......yes I know I said rat.....My bag....
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Post by FUCKTARD ! on Jul 10, 2008 22:09:34 GMT -5
What one thing is destroying this country ? Why everybody knows it's that darn rat music......yes I know I said rat.....My bag.... I liked me the RATT back in the day. Round and Round is on my IPOD |
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Post by potthole on Jul 11, 2008 5:52:24 GMT -5
What one thing is destroying this country ? I'll say illegal immigration. Go the F back ! Some of my ancestors immigrated to the United States illegally. Should I 'Go the F back' too? What makes you think that this country is being destroyed in the first place? It would be interesting to compare the number of illegal immigrants in recent years to the number of illegals in other periods of time in history. My gut feeling is that the numbers are quite a bit higher today than they were in the past. I'm not sure I'm willing to say that illegals are ruining America, but I do feel that, for a few reasons, illegal immigration is not a good thing for the country. |
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Post by kaboobie92 on Jul 11, 2008 6:14:00 GMT -5
i agree with potthole. Illegal immigration is not a good thing for this country because it causes a burden on taxpayers. There are obviously more reasons but this is a main one. If a person wants to come to this country legally, great. I dont care where you come from or who you are, its a free country and you should be able to come in LEGALLY. I'm sick of all these mexicans jumping the border and taking advantage of my taxes though their healthcare and incarceration.
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Post by Zee on Jul 11, 2008 6:42:41 GMT -5
Some of my ancestors immigrated to the United States illegally. Should I 'Go the F back' too? What makes you think that this country is being destroyed in the first place? It would be interesting to compare the number of illegal immigrants in recent years to the number of illegals in other periods of time in history. My gut feeling is that the numbers are quite a bit higher today than they were in the past. I'm not sure I'm willing to say that illegals are ruining America, but I do feel that, for a few reasons, illegal immigration is not a good thing for the country. That is a statement that I am more inclined to agree with. Additionally I think a good alternative to, "Go the F back' is to try to make it easier to come here legally. I think there are American citizens and immigrants that take advantage of the system and it should be made harder to live off the government. |
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Post by Allyson on Jul 11, 2008 6:49:02 GMT -5
LIBERALS
the media
welfare
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Post by Zee on Jul 11, 2008 7:20:45 GMT -5
Close minded d'bags who seem to always have the loudest voice.
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Post by Howie Feltersnatch on Jul 11, 2008 7:40:32 GMT -5
Politicians
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Post by Zee on Jul 11, 2008 7:56:03 GMT -5
I just said that in the post right before yours. |
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Post by Howie Feltersnatch on Jul 11, 2008 7:59:05 GMT -5
I just said that in the post right before yours. ahhh I thought you were reffering to FUCKTARD or something |
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Post by FUCKTARD ! on Jul 11, 2008 8:00:55 GMT -5
I just said that in the post right before yours. LOL ! I think there should be a 10 year term limit on career politicians. 10 years, then you're back to your real job. |
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Post by Howie Feltersnatch on Jul 11, 2008 8:04:10 GMT -5
I just said that in the post right before yours. LOL ! I think there should be a 10 year term limit on career politicians. 10 years, then you're back to your real job. I work for a conservation district (read as local branch of Department of Ag) we have a board that runs us within the county...it was nearly impossible to finally un-seat just one guy that had been on for 23 years...It was time for new blood but nobody would step in |
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Post by FUCKTARD ! on Jul 11, 2008 8:04:46 GMT -5
Let me add to my initial post by saying that I truly do believe America, is and should always be the land of opportunity, if you chose to go through the proper legal process of becoming an American citizen, then good for you, welcome.
If you come here illegally, you deserve a one way bus trip back across whatever border you hopped. If you come back illegally a 2nd time, well then you obviously didn't learn your lesson the first time, and perhaps you need a harsher punishment?
How about this ? Amnesty for all illegal immigrants, if they agree to get sterilized ?
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Post by Zee on Jul 11, 2008 8:08:41 GMT -5
Let me add to my initial post by saying that I truly do believe America, is and should always be the land of opportunity, if you chose to go through the proper legal process of becoming an American citizen, then good for you, welcome. If you come here illegally, you deserve a one way bus trip back across whatever border you hopped. If you come back illegally a 2nd time, well then you obviously didn't learn your lesson the first time, and perhaps you need a harsher punishment? How about this ? Amnesty for all illegal immigrants, if they agree to get sterilized ? I can't totally agree with that one but I think you are on to something. How about if you choose to be on welfare you have to be sterilized? Or everyone has to have a sterilization that can be reversed if they can pass a basic intelligence test? |
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Post by Howie Feltersnatch on Jul 11, 2008 8:09:32 GMT -5
Let me add to my initial post by saying that I truly do believe America, is and should always be the land of opportunity, if you chose to go through the proper legal process of becoming an American citizen, then good for you, welcome. If you come here illegally, you deserve a one way bus trip back across whatever border you hopped. If you come back illegally a 2nd time, well then you obviously didn't learn your lesson the first time, and perhaps you need a harsher punishment? How about this ? Amnesty for all illegal immigrants, if they agree to get sterilized ? I agree, if you dislike your country enough to leave it for America and more opportunity than atleast so your allegiance with the country that is willing to take you in and allow you those opportunities Dick |
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Post by Bo Nerdasuck on Jul 11, 2008 8:12:15 GMT -5
I believe that people on food stamps should have mandatory random drug tests. And if they get busted then they're not allowed their stamps any longer.
1 small step.
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Post by Howie Feltersnatch on Jul 11, 2008 8:13:42 GMT -5
I believe that people on food stamps should have mandatory random drug tests. And if they get busted then they're not allowed their stamps any longer. 1 small step. Yeah! I have to take random drug testings to pay for the food stamps....workers have to take drug tests to administor the food stamps...what the hell eh? |
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Post by Zee on Jul 11, 2008 8:17:33 GMT -5
I believe that people on food stamps should have mandatory random drug tests. And if they get busted then they're not allowed their stamps any longer. 1 small step. My initial thought was, "Who is going to pay for the drug testing?" I don't think I even completed the thought before I realized the money saved on not giving the ones who fail the tests would exceed the cost of drug testing. Food Stamps are usually given per family though. Would you drug test every person in the family and if only one failed would you deny the entire family? |
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Post by Howie Feltersnatch on Jul 11, 2008 8:22:21 GMT -5
I believe that people on food stamps should have mandatory random drug tests. And if they get busted then they're not allowed their stamps any longer. 1 small step. My initial thought was, "Who is going to pay for the drug testing?" I don't think I even completed the thought before I realized the money saved on not giving the ones who fail the tests would exceed the cost of drug testing. Food Stamps are usually given per family though. Would you drug test every person in the family and if only one failed would you deny the entire family? damn your logic! |
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Post by Zee on Jul 11, 2008 8:27:44 GMT -5
My initial thought was, "Who is going to pay for the drug testing?" I don't think I even completed the thought before I realized the money saved on not giving the ones who fail the tests would exceed the cost of drug testing. Food Stamps are usually given per family though. Would you drug test every person in the family and if only one failed would you deny the entire family? damn your logic! I'm trying to come up with a solution here... we need to make it easier for immigrants to come in... we also need to stop providing for people who don't contribute to society... How about if you are receiving food stamps and you fail the random drug test then you are dropped off in Mexico and traded for a Mexican that wants to come to America. They can take your name and S.S. number just to get things going. |
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Post by FUCKTARD ! on Jul 11, 2008 8:27:54 GMT -5
I believe that people on food stamps should have mandatory random drug tests. And if they get busted then they're not allowed their stamps any longer. 1 small step. Great Idea Bo. I'll vote for you ! |
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Post by sluttynurse on Jul 11, 2008 8:30:45 GMT -5
I'm trying to come up with a solution here... we need to make it easier for immigrants to come in... we also need to stop providing for people who don't contribute to society... How about if you are receiving food stamps and you fail the random drug test then you are dropped off in Mexico and traded for a Mexican that wants to come to America. They can take your name and S.S. number just to get things going. Agreed. And the people that make milking the welfare system a career choice need to stop having so many damn kids...but I guess that's how they get raises $$. |
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Post by Howie Feltersnatch on Jul 11, 2008 8:31:11 GMT -5
I'm trying to come up with a solution here... we need to make it easier for immigrants to come in... we also need to stop providing for people who don't contribute to society... How about if you are receiving food stamps and you fail the random drug test then you are dropped off in Mexico and traded for a Mexican that wants to come to America. They can take your name and S.S. number just to get things going. I think the key is somehow providing farmers with money from the foodstamp piggy bank....make them hire folks that are on welfare and put them to work for a little more than what they would pay migrants and a more than one would make on welfare...entice them to 'do the work nobody wants' it's not 'teaching them a trade' but it's getting them off the government teet (somewhat) and out working. Farmer inputs would equal what it was for illegal help and the workers would be around year after year and wouldn't require housing.... |
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Post by Howie Feltersnatch on Jul 11, 2008 8:36:36 GMT -5
I'm trying to come up with a solution here... we need to make it easier for immigrants to come in... we also need to stop providing for people who don't contribute to society... How about if you are receiving food stamps and you fail the random drug test then you are dropped off in Mexico and traded for a Mexican that wants to come to America. They can take your name and S.S. number just to get things going. Agreed. And the people that make milking the welfare system a career choice need to stop having so many damn kids...but I guess that's how they get raises $$. it's bullshit how they rate familys. I was 19 when my son was born. I dropped out of college and took a job at a grocery store making $7/hr. My now wife and I lived on that while renting a house, feeding 3, and putting her through college. We applied for Food stamps and they gave us $18/month because I made too much money, no utility help, no rent help. At that grocery store I would see peole come in with the 'bridge card' (foodstamp debit card) that had money just for non-taxable food, but then also up to $500 for 'rent' they would buy a pack of 25cent gum with the rent money, and then use the cash to buy beer and pop and cigs. This thread pisses me off.....i'm going to the Sex thread GAH! |
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Post by sluttynurse on Jul 11, 2008 8:37:52 GMT -5
This thread pisses me off.....i'm going to the Sex thread GAH! I'll meet you there Howie.  |
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Post by FUCKTARD ! on Jul 11, 2008 8:38:05 GMT -5
Maybe sterilization should be a punishment available to the courts ?
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Post by Dino on Jul 11, 2008 8:38:31 GMT -5
Agreed. And the people that make milking the welfare system a career choice need to stop having so many damn kids...but I guess that's how they get raises $$. it's bullshit how they rate familys. I was 19 when my son was born. I dropped out of college and took a job at a grocery store making $7/hr. My now wife and I lived on that while renting a house, feeding 3, and putting her through college. We applied for Food stamps and they gave us $18/month because I made too much money, no utility help, no rent help. At that grocery store I would see peole come in with the 'bridge card' (foodstamp debit card) that had money just for non-taxable food, but then also up to $500 for 'rent' they would buy a pack of 25cent gum with the rent money, and then use the cash to buy beer and pop and cigs. This thread pisses me off.....i'm going to the Sex thread GAH! +1 for working your ass off and not depending on the government dole. (I know....this +1 makes up for it all doesn't it!) |
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