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Jul 17, 2008 19:29:09 GMT -5
Post by Mad Dog on Jul 17, 2008 19:29:09 GMT -5
I would absolutely pay $6 a gallon for gas to not drill In Alaska, [only selfish a-holes would destroy future generations preserved lands to save some coin.] And im sure you’re a biologist so you know the animals love the pipeline, especially the caribou that have to walk two miles to get around sections of it. It’s not the drilling that has all the impact on the environment, transporting the oil is were the largest footprint is left. How many people from future gererations are going too visit this icy paradise? Also if its immoral for us in this generation to drill in Anwar what makes it any more moral for those in the "future generations" to do it if they need the oil? |
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Jul 18, 2008 7:48:39 GMT -5
Post by wienerpoopie on Jul 18, 2008 7:48:39 GMT -5
I would absolutely pay $6 a gallon for gas to not drill In Alaska, [only selfish a-holes would destroy future generations preserved lands to save some coin.] And im sure you’re a biologist so you know the animals love the pipeline, especially the caribou that have to walk two miles to get around sections of it. It’s not the drilling that has all the impact on the environment, transporting the oil is were the largest footprint is left. How many people from future gererations are going too visit this icy paradise? Also if its immoral for us in this generation to drill in Anwar what makes it any more moral for those in the "future generations" to do it if they need the oil? I don’t think it would be right for future generations to drill in these areas , but if we could solve this problem now the future would be free from drilling anyway. Protected areas are not preserved for future humans as much as future habitats, like the rain forest, not necessarily preserved for its destination value but its habitats. |
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Jul 18, 2008 9:32:37 GMT -5
Post by Queenie on Jul 18, 2008 9:32:37 GMT -5
I remember back in the mid-70's, my new best friend in school had just returned from Alaska where her Dad was working on a pipeline. This thread really brought back some good memories of that.
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Jul 18, 2008 21:02:55 GMT -5
Post by xxsloshxx on Jul 18, 2008 21:02:55 GMT -5
news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080714/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bushIn my opinion this is a band aid on a gun shot wound, or as Jon Stewart would say “were making crack in the children’s bed room to get our fix”. I wouldn’t consider myself a democrat but I do share their views on the environment. Discuss how far we will go to rape the environment to get our oil fix here: Who gives an eff about our environment? We are humans. It's in our nature to survive no matter what the cost. If we have to "rape" (which I guess is a new word for tree huggers to use), then so be it. Let's rape the earth all day long just so us Americans keep getting fatter, lazier and stupidider! In fact, I'm going to go dig a hole in the ground right now and violate it. |
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Jul 21, 2008 13:42:54 GMT -5
Post by wienerpoopie on Jul 21, 2008 13:42:54 GMT -5
news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080714/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bushIn my opinion this is a band aid on a gun shot wound, or as Jon Stewart would say “were making crack in the children’s bed room to get our fix”. I wouldn’t consider myself a democrat but I do share their views on the environment. Discuss how far we will go to rape the environment to get our oil fix here: Who gives an eff about our environment? We are humans. It's in our nature to survive no matter what the cost. If we have to "rape" (which I guess is a new word for tree huggers to use), then so be it. Let's rape the earth all day long just so us Americans keep getting fatter, lazier and stupidider! In fact, I'm going to go dig a hole in the ground right now and violate it. Im having a hard time with detecting any sarcasm with your post but you don’t seem well educated so look at this for awhile…  |
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Jul 21, 2008 13:55:04 GMT -5
Post by plungerhand on Jul 21, 2008 13:55:04 GMT -5
The "haves" in this country know that their oil investments have a shelf life and are going to milk them for all they can. It's about MONEY, not oil. The environmental issues are only to distract. Nobody that's anybody, really cares and/or can do anything about it.
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Jul 21, 2008 13:56:25 GMT -5
Post by The Biff Lebowski on Jul 21, 2008 13:56:25 GMT -5
The "haves" in this country know that their oil investments have a shelf life and are going to milk them for all they can. It's about MONEY, not oil. The environmental issues are only to distract. Nobody that's anybody, really cares and/or can do anything about it. If you have a 401k then you are benefiting from the oil profits. |
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Jul 21, 2008 14:00:04 GMT -5
Post by plungerhand on Jul 21, 2008 14:00:04 GMT -5
The "haves" in this country know that their oil investments have a shelf life and are going to milk them for all they can. It's about MONEY, not oil. The environmental issues are only to distract. Nobody that's anybody, really cares and/or can do anything about it. If you have a 401k then you are benefiting from the oil profits. I don't, but not for that reason. All my hard earned is spent at the Kroger(groceries) and gas. |
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Jul 21, 2008 14:00:25 GMT -5
Post by wienerpoopie on Jul 21, 2008 14:00:25 GMT -5
The "haves" in this country know that their oil investments have a shelf life and are going to milk them for all they can. It's about MONEY, not oil. The environmental issues are only to distract. Nobody that's anybody, really cares and/or can do anything about it. If you have a 401k then you are benefiting from the oil profits. Wrong Biff, my money is only invested in puppies and kittens |
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Jul 24, 2008 11:34:51 GMT -5
Post by kaboobie92 on Jul 24, 2008 11:34:51 GMT -5
one word, Drill.
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Jul 24, 2008 11:48:02 GMT -5
Post by wienerpoopie on Jul 24, 2008 11:48:02 GMT -5
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Jul 24, 2008 11:51:59 GMT -5
Post by Howie Feltersnatch on Jul 24, 2008 11:51:59 GMT -5
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Jul 24, 2008 11:53:32 GMT -5
Post by Howie Feltersnatch on Jul 24, 2008 11:53:32 GMT -5
If you have a 401k then you are benefiting from the oil profits. Wrong Biff, my money is only invested in puppies and kittens so that you can eat their brains  |
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Jul 24, 2008 13:23:52 GMT -5
Post by yewt on Jul 24, 2008 13:23:52 GMT -5
Wrong Biff, my money is only invested in puppies and kittens so that you can eat their brains oh god |
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Jul 24, 2008 13:52:15 GMT -5
Post by Howie Feltersnatch on Jul 24, 2008 13:52:15 GMT -5
I would absolutely pay $6 a gallon for gas to not drill In Alaska, [only selfish a-holes would destroy future generations preserved lands to save some coin.] And im sure you’re a biologist so you know the animals love the pipeline, especially the caribou that have to walk two miles to get around sections of it. It’s not the drilling that has all the impact on the environment, transporting the oil is were the largest footprint is left. How many people from future gererations are going too visit this icy paradise? Also if its immoral for us in this generation to drill in Anwar what makes it any more moral for those in the "future generations" to do it if they need the oil? You are 100% correct...i won't get to visit the moon and my kids likely won't either....I hear it's made of cheese...let's blow it up and harvest the cheese....nobody will miss it as they'll never get to step foot on it |
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Jul 25, 2008 8:21:42 GMT -5
Post by ratrad on Jul 25, 2008 8:21:42 GMT -5
Shortsighted. Like everything else you say. |
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Jul 25, 2008 16:45:51 GMT -5
Post by Mad Dog on Jul 25, 2008 16:45:51 GMT -5
How many people from future gererations are going too visit this icy paradise? Also if its immoral for us in this generation to drill in Anwar what makes it any more moral for those in the "future generations" to do it if they need the oil? You are 100% correct...i won't get to visit the moon and my kids likely won't either....I hear it's made of cheese...let's blow it up and harvest the cheese....nobody will miss it as they'll never get to step foot on it Actually it's not really cheese but rocks and dust, which by the way happen to be minerals which intern hypotheticaly could be mined. So if someone had the money and the balls to send a mining crew too the moon, you could still see and enjoy the moon and yet someone else could financially benifit from said mineral deposits. I ask why not? Same with Anwar oil feilds. Nobody is talking about destroying it just useing it for our human best intrests. Or our Nations best intrests. We are truely being held over the international oil barrel and because of those with your veiw point in power we will continue too be so. |
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Jul 25, 2008 18:59:34 GMT -5
Post by hotsauce on Jul 25, 2008 18:59:34 GMT -5
We should drill Anwr. We should also go after all of our resources that we have. We still need oil while alternatives are being found. We bought Alaska for it's natural resources., not too just sit there and be pretty. The Governor of Alaska is begging to be able to help support the US economy with their resources. The Eskimos that live near the pipeline want us to drill.
We know how to do this safely and with as little impact as possible. We NEED to do it
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Jul 26, 2008 6:55:25 GMT -5
Post by Mad Dog on Jul 26, 2008 6:55:25 GMT -5
We should drill Anwr. We should also go after all of our resources that we have. We still need oil while alternatives are being found. We bought Alaska for it's natural resources., not too just sit there and be pretty. The Governor of Alaska is begging to be able to help support the US economy with their resources. The Eskimos that live near the pipeline want us to drill. We know how to do this safely and with as little impact as possible. We NEED to do it well said |
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Jul 26, 2008 16:12:43 GMT -5
Post by Evil Neddy Flanders on Jul 26, 2008 16:12:43 GMT -5
Not just our country but the entire world runs on a sea of oil. No amount of conservation (currently) is going to change that. Through off shore drilling, North Dakota and Alaska, there is enough oil to last over 300 years at our current demand level.
We need to drill for oil now to meet our current needs while at the same time exploring alternatives. Just look at how far technology has come in the past 25 years. You think that in the next 50 to 100 years we are still going to be driving around with the same kinds of internal combustible engines? But we sure as hell are not going to get there any faster with the world's economy in the crapper due to $200.00 a barrel oil.
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Jul 28, 2008 13:27:50 GMT -5
Post by wienerpoopie on Jul 28, 2008 13:27:50 GMT -5
We should drill Anwr. We should also go after all of our resources that we have. We still need oil while alternatives are being found. We bought Alaska for it's natural resources., not too just sit there and be pretty. The Governor of Alaska is begging to be able to help support the US economy with their resources. The Eskimos that live near the pipeline want us to drill. We know how to do this safely and with as little impact as possible. We NEED to do it Im sure a lot of people in Alaska would love for us to drill, they would enjoy the millions of dollars they would get from it. Drilling for oil is a lot like the gravel pit by my house, they are not obligated to clean the area around it until it’s closed, so they will dig or drill for fifty years so they don’t have to pay to restore the environment around it. Then the company has changed names and no one is obligated to fill the huge hole or rehabilitate the habitat were they drilled. I know im out numbered but who the hell am I to try and save the planet…here is a list of the latest animals that have become extinct from earth… Madeiran Large White, Pieris brassicae wollastoni, 29-30 October 2007 Western Black Rhinoceros, Diceros bicornis longipes, 8 June 2006 Po'o-uli, Melamprosops phaeosoma, 28 November 2004 Miss Waldron's Red Colobus Monkey, Procolobus badius waldronae, 2000-2001 Pyrenean Ibex, Capra pyrenaica pyrenaica, 6 January 2000 Golden Toad, Bufo periglenes, 1989 |
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Jul 28, 2008 14:12:34 GMT -5
Post by ratrad on Jul 28, 2008 14:12:34 GMT -5
We should drill Anwr. We should also go after all of our resources that we have. We still need oil while alternatives are being found. We bought Alaska for it's natural resources., not too just sit there and be pretty. The Governor of Alaska is begging to be able to help support the US economy with their resources. The Eskimos that live near the pipeline want us to drill. We know how to do this safely and with as little impact as possible. We NEED to do it Im sure a lot of people in Alaska would love for us to drill, they would enjoy the millions of dollars they would get from it. Drilling for oil is a lot like the gravel pit by my house, they are not obligated to clean the area around it until it’s closed, so they will dig or drill for fifty years so they don’t have to pay to restore the environment around it. Then the company has changed names and no one is obligated to fill the huge hole or rehabilitate the habitat were they drilled. I know im out numbered but who the hell am I to try and save the planet…here is a list of the latest animals that have become extinct from earth… Madeiran Large White, Pieris brassicae wollastoni, 29-30 October 2007 Western Black Rhinoceros, Diceros bicornis longipes, 8 June 2006 Po'o-uli, Melamprosops phaeosoma, 28 November 2004 Miss Waldron's Red Colobus Monkey, Procolobus badius waldronae, 2000-2001 Pyrenean Ibex, Capra pyrenaica pyrenaica, 6 January 2000 Golden Toad, Bufo periglenes, 1989 Dude it doesn't affect them, so they don't care. Its all about "me". |
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Jul 28, 2008 14:41:23 GMT -5
Post by Howie Feltersnatch on Jul 28, 2008 14:41:23 GMT -5
We should drill Anwr. We should also go after all of our resources that we have. We still need oil while alternatives are being found. We bought Alaska for it's natural resources., not too just sit there and be pretty. The Governor of Alaska is begging to be able to help support the US economy with their resources. The Eskimos that live near the pipeline want us to drill. We know how to do this safely and with as little impact as possible. We NEED to do it Im sure a lot of people in Alaska would love for us to drill, they would enjoy the millions of dollars they would get from it. Drilling for oil is a lot like the gravel pit by my house, they are not obligated to clean the area around it until it’s closed, so they will dig or drill for fifty years so they don’t have to pay to restore the environment around it. Then the company has changed names and no one is obligated to fill the huge hole or rehabilitate the habitat were they drilled. I know im out numbered but who the hell am I to try and save the planet…here is a list of the latest animals that have become extinct from earth… Madeiran Large White, Pieris brassicae wollastoni, 29-30 October 2007 Western Black Rhinoceros, Diceros bicornis longipes, 8 June 2006 Po'o-uli, Melamprosops phaeosoma, 28 November 2004 Miss Waldron's Red Colobus Monkey, Procolobus badius waldronae, 2000-2001 Pyrenean Ibex, Capra pyrenaica pyrenaica, 6 January 2000 Golden Toad, Bufo periglenes, 1989 damnit! i bet they were all delicious too...  |
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Jul 28, 2008 21:16:28 GMT -5
Post by Evil Neddy Flanders on Jul 28, 2008 21:16:28 GMT -5
Well looking at the dinosaurs for example... Plenty of animals became extinct well before the Industrial Revolution, so it seem kind of natural that many animals will eventually become extinct after as well.
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Jul 28, 2008 22:55:25 GMT -5
Post by speedbump on Jul 28, 2008 22:55:25 GMT -5
Well looking at the dinosaurs for example... Plenty of animals became extinct well before the Industrial Revolution, so it seem kind of natural that many animals will eventually become extinct after as well. The logic behind this post makes my head explode. |
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Jul 29, 2008 3:47:09 GMT -5
Post by Mad Dog on Jul 29, 2008 3:47:09 GMT -5
Does ANYBODY know just how many Caribou are in Anwar? As I recall its a hole lot.
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Jul 29, 2008 8:29:01 GMT -5
Post by wienerpoopie on Jul 29, 2008 8:29:01 GMT -5
Well looking at the dinosaurs for example... Plenty of animals became extinct well before the Industrial Revolution, so it seem kind of natural that many animals will eventually become extinct after as well. Dinosaurs are a prime example  they became extinct before modern man, it was a mass extinction, and we don’t know exactly how the became extinct. That relates to today’s standards how? |
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Aug 11, 2008 20:51:05 GMT -5
Post by Mad Dog on Aug 11, 2008 20:51:05 GMT -5
Has any body happen to notice that Obama is starting to adopt the same, although admittedly more limited, rhetoric as McCain concerning off shore drilling? I don't think he's warmed up to Anwar yet but he is talking about oil drilling expansion in the rest of the lower 48.
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Aug 11, 2008 20:58:13 GMT -5
Post by speedbump on Aug 11, 2008 20:58:13 GMT -5
Has any body happen to notice that Obama is starting to adopt the same, although admittedly more limited, rhetoric as McCain concerning off shore drilling? I don't think he's warmed up to Anwar yet but he is talking about oil drilling expansion in the rest of the lower 48. McCain also used to oppose offshore drilling. They're both moving towards the center, which is good. I don't think one extreme or the other wouldn't have worked. |
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Aug 11, 2008 21:05:35 GMT -5
Post by hotsauce on Aug 11, 2008 21:05:35 GMT -5
Has any body happen to notice that Obama is starting to adopt the same, although admittedly more limited, rhetoric as McCain concerning off shore drilling? I don't think he's warmed up to Anwar yet but he is talking about oil drilling expansion in the rest of the lower 48. McCain also used to oppose offshore drilling. They're both moving towards the center, which is good. I don't think one extreme or the other wouldn't have worked. I'm not sure they had any choice. We are in trouble and we need some relief. It might have been a real hot button issue. They had to start listening to the people. |
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they became extinct before modern man, it was a mass extinction, and we don’t know exactly how the became extinct. That relates to today’s standards how?