9/11 Truth!

[fearsome30]

Still believing a 9/11 conspiracy theory? That's lame. If you know anything about top secret information, you would know that one of the most important aspects is limiting the number of people with access to a particular piece of information. How exactly do you plan something like 9-11 that is so complex and keep all but a small number of people out of the loop?
On explosions, When did they put these precision munitions in the WTC? Do you realize the rediculous amount of planning and time needed to perform such a task? Or the number of people needed to work on the project? They are all keeping quiet? Just think about it rationally. If you are objective you will realize how bogus and lacking the conspiracy theories are.

[Fistor]

Aug 21, 2008 15:57:31 GMT -5 flyersfantn said:

UPDATE:

WTC 7 bulding collapse mystery solved.

news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080821/ap_on_go_ot/attacks_collapse

Eat it shaggy....eat it with a bag of dicks.

The first word of this article is "federal". That is all these idiots need to dismiss the all the words after that come after the first one. To them, any information that comes from the government is "disinformation" (when it doesn't support their point, of course).

Fortunately, though, belief in this ridiculous conspiracy theory seems to be dying down so that only the true lunatics remain (see Shaggy). Unfortunately these mouth-breathers believed in this garbage long enough to make douchebags like Dylan Avery and Alex Jones rich for inventing lies about the deaths of thousands of innocent Americans.

[wienerpoopie]

Im don’t necessarily believe 911 was conspiracy but if any of the information in this video were true I would definitely consider it.

[Fistor]

Aug 22, 2008 7:40:31 GMT -5 @wienerpoopie said:

Im don’t necessarily believe 911 was conspiracy but if any of the information in this video were true I would definitely consider it.

1. The 270 degree turn. What about it? Hani Hanjour couldn't "safely fly a small plane", so how is this evidence that he wasn't flying flight 77? A 270 degree turn wouldn't be attempted by the most experienced of pilots, but it would probably be attempted by an extremely nervous amateur. Of course, the video doesn't attempt to provide an alternative - it just raises a question and moves on. Such is the case with every theory pertaining to 9/11.

2. No plane or body parts were found at the Pentagon. This is an absolute fabrication. 911myths.com/html/757_wreckage.html

3. Jamie McIntyre, a CNN correspondant, is heard on the video saying "There's no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon.....the only pieces left that you can see are small enough that you pick up in your hand."

Don't these two statements contradict one another? McIntyre, of course, was trying to describe the awesome energy that occurred when the plane hit, but conspiracy theorists try to twist his words to fit their theories. For some reason, they left in the second part of the quote, even though it completely goes against their fabrication of there being absolutely no evidence of plane parts present at the Pentagon. Again, what are they trying to say?

4. The lawn was covered up by dirt and gravel, "covering up forensic evidence". They didn't cover up the evidence with the gravel.

Ed Pickens, the senior construction scheduler: "On that first day we discussed with the FBI where to place the dumpsters needed to cart away debris. We discovered, however, that the dumpsters had to be brand new because the debris was evidence and could not be contaminated in any way. So we had to deliver numerous new dumpsters to the site immediately. And then I informed the FBI that we were going to have to build a road for the trucks carrying the debris because the ground around the heliport—the area closest to the blast—was too soft.

The FBI authorized construction of the road, and I called a contractor, who got the gravel, and we got things moving"

www.pubs.asce.org/ceonline/ceonline01/0111feat.html

You would think someone who is so hell-bent about finding the "truth" about 9/11 would've not left this stone unturned.

5. Videos from surveillance cameras were "immediately confiscated by the FBI." No shit. It's called an investigation. What would you expect them to do with the videos - post them on youtube? But why hasn't the government released them (at the time this video was shot)? My guess is because the government isn't too concerned about disproving crackpot conspiracy theories.

That's it for the Pentagon. There's over 7 minutes left on this video. If you want me to continue to point out it's lies, let me know. But I'm hoping by now you see that it's nothing but a tool to try to make you raise questions and, therefore, invest money into this idiotic theory.

By the way, the speaker in the video is David Ray Griffin, who is a reknowned conspiracy theory hack.

[wienerpoopie]

Aug 22, 2008 8:37:03 GMT -5 Fistor said:

Aug 22, 2008 7:40:31 GMT -5 @wienerpoopie said:

Im don’t necessarily believe 911 was conspiracy but if any of the information in this video were true I would definitely consider it.

1. The 270 degree turn. What about it? Hani Hanjour couldn't "safely fly a small plane", so how is this evidence that he wasn't flying flight 77? A 270 degree turn wouldn't be attempted by the most experienced of pilots, but it would probably be attempted by an extremely nervous amateur. Of course, the video doesn't attempt to provide an alternative - it just raises a question and moves on. Such is the case with every theory pertaining to 9/11.

2. No plane or body parts were found at the Pentagon. This is an absolute fabrication. 911myths.com/html/757_wreckage.html

3. Jamie McIntyre, a CNN correspondant, is heard on the video saying "There's no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon.....the only pieces left that you can see are small enough that you pick up in your hand."

Don't these two statements contradict one another? McIntyre, of course, was trying to describe the awesome energy that occurred when the plane hit, but conspiracy theorists try to twist his words to fit their theories. For some reason, they left in the second part of the quote, even though it completely goes against their fabrication of there being absolutely no evidence of plane parts present at the Pentagon. Again, what are they trying to say?

4. The lawn was covered up by dirt and gravel, "covering up forensic evidence". They didn't cover up the evidence with the gravel.

Ed Pickens, the senior construction scheduler: "On that first day we discussed with the FBI where to place the dumpsters needed to cart away debris. We discovered, however, that the dumpsters had to be brand new because the debris was evidence and could not be contaminated in any way. So we had to deliver numerous new dumpsters to the site immediately. And then I informed the FBI that we were going to have to build a road for the trucks carrying the debris because the ground around the heliport—the area closest to the blast—was too soft.

The FBI authorized construction of the road, and I called a contractor, who got the gravel, and we got things moving"

www.pubs.asce.org/ceonline/ceonline01/0111feat.html

You would think someone who is so hell-bent about finding the "truth" about 9/11 would've not left this stone unturned.

5. Videos from surveillance cameras were "immediately confiscated by the FBI." No shit. It's called an investigation. What would you expect them to do with the videos - post them on youtube? But why hasn't the government released them (at the time this video was shot)? My guess is because the government isn't too concerned about disproving crackpot conspiracy theories.

That's it for the Pentagon. There's over 7 minutes left on this video. If you want me to continue to point out it's lies, let me know. But I'm hoping by now you see that it's nothing but a tool to try to make you raise questions and, therefore, invest money into this idiotic theory.

By the way, the speaker in the video is David Ray Griffin, who is a reknowned conspiracy theory hack.

[Fistor]

Aug 22, 2008 8:42:17 GMT -5 @wienerpoopie said:

Sorry, I wasn't trying to insult you. I thought you were looking for some evidence against the "facts" presented by the video.

[wienerpoopie]

Aug 22, 2008 8:43:39 GMT -5 Fistor said:

Aug 22, 2008 8:42:17 GMT -5 @wienerpoopie said:

Sorry, I wasn't trying to insult you. I thought you were looking for some evidence against the "facts" presented by the video.

I was and you did a great job, as I read it did seem disdainful but that was probably just how I read it.

[Fistor]

Aug 22, 2008 8:48:08 GMT -5 @wienerpoopie said:

I was and you did a great job, as I read it did seem disdainful but that was probably just how I read it.

It was disdainful, but only toward the makers of the video. I believe there is a special place in hell for these pricks.