boizalynne
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Post by boizalynne on Jul 29, 2008 11:39:18 GMT -5
I was speaking to a friend of mine and was just informed that she is no longer going to have insurance for her and her husband and her three kids through her job. She is going to have to cut out some necessary prescriptions for her children now.... I hate how our entire country is ran by big business. I cannot stand the fact that normal, hard working people who strain their asses off every day to make a dollar can't even get adequate medical care in this country. If we are so 'big' and 'strong' here in the usa, why is it that many of our people can't even get the medical attention needed. It is the same idea as with oil, the government is getting too much money from the insurance agencies as well as the oil industry to step in and take action so that every person in this country has a fair shot at insurance. We went for YEARS without insurance... Finally my husband has a job where we have it, but it comes with a co-pay. I also heard that co-pays have been rising, and insurance agencies are covering less and less... And speaking of oil, it took me a long time to realize what was really causing the rise in prices. Everywhere you look there is another theory or excuse for the rise in gas prices, but really when it all comes down to it, it all has to do with the fact that the government wont step in to regulate the price of fuel because the higher and higher it gets in the stock market, the more and more money they make... and who suffers? Us... the people who pull this country together and actually work daily to make ends meet. How fair is that? People losing their jobs everywhere you look, the prices of not only gas, but groceries and goods are skyrocketing. Not just that, I don't know if anyone else has noticed but my gas/water/electric has more than doubled in the past 5 years....... and why? All because some selfish pig of a person who doesn't give two shits about anything but the money coming into his pocket doesn't want to give the average person a break... What a disgusting trend here in the usa....
sorry for my rant...
PS) It still pisses me off more than anything that congress can vote for their own raises... GAH!!!!!!!!
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Post by wienerpoopie on Jul 29, 2008 11:59:26 GMT -5
Our government is a joke; it will never be fixed because to them it has never been broken.
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Post by scooterfanatic on Jul 29, 2008 12:04:45 GMT -5
Why can't they just live up to the republican ideal and entrepeneur their way out of this predicament? There'd be no problems if everyone was a business owner!
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Post by kaboobie92 on Jul 29, 2008 13:38:08 GMT -5
Why can't they just live up to the republican ideal and entrepeneur their way out of this predicament? There'd be no problems if everyone was a business owner! Everything you say is anti-republican. It's because you have no intelligent response to the problem so you just blame it on somebody. The liberal way! And it's all bush's fault i'm sure. |
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Post by ratrad on Jul 29, 2008 13:39:45 GMT -5
Why can't they just live up to the republican ideal and entrepeneur their way out of this predicament? There'd be no problems if everyone was a business owner! Everything you say is anti- republican democrat. It's because you have no intelligent response to the problem so you just blame it on somebody. The liberal conservative way! And it's all bush's fault i'm sure. Everything you say is anti- republican democrat. It's because you have no intelligent response to the problem so you just blame it on somebody. The liberal conservative way! And it's all bush's fault i'm sure. You got that last sentence right. See? Works both ways. |
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Post by ratrad on Jul 29, 2008 13:41:26 GMT -5
Why can't they just live up to the republican ideal and entrepeneur their way out of this predicament? There'd be no problems if everyone was a business owner! Everything you say is anti-republican. It's because you have no intelligent response to the problem so you just blame it on somebody. The liberal way! And it's all bush's fault i'm sure. By the way. What is your solution to our dear friend's rant? |
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Post by wienerpoopie on Jul 29, 2008 13:41:59 GMT -5
Why can't they just live up to the republican ideal and entrepeneur their way out of this predicament? There'd be no problems if everyone was a business owner! Everything you say is anti-republican. It's because you have no intelligent response to the problem so you just blame it on somebody. The liberal way! And it's all bush's fault i'm sure. Actually its Jesus’ fault… |
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Post by Howie Feltersnatch on Jul 29, 2008 13:50:29 GMT -5
insurance companies piss me off as well....
I had to switch my family over to my insurance from my wifes....My wife got switched just fine...the baby was switched as soon as she was born so it was immediate as there was no underwriting...my son (5) who has no ailments or allergies and hasn't been to the doc except for preventative 'well visits' was postponed 2 months....for no reason...which also held up the rest of our family....we patitioned it and they said "it's the rules"
I wanted to reply with:
Is it also a rule that I eff YOUR MOTHER IN THE A? cause I did....
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Post by wienerpoopie on Jul 29, 2008 13:53:08 GMT -5
insurance companies piss me off as well.... I had to switch my family over to my insurance from my wifes....My wife got switched just fine...the baby was switched as soon as she was born so it was immediate as there was no underwriting...my son (5) who has no ailments or allergies and hasn't been to the doc except for preventative 'well visits' was postponed 2 months....for no reason...which also held up the rest of our family....we patitioned it and they said "it's the rules" I wanted to reply with: Is it also a rule that I eff YOUR MOTHER IN THE A? cause I did....That surely would have helped… |
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boizalynne
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Post by boizalynne on Jul 29, 2008 13:58:33 GMT -5
insurance companies piss me off as well.... I had to switch my family over to my insurance from my wifes....My wife got switched just fine...the baby was switched as soon as she was born so it was immediate as there was no underwriting...my son (5) who has no ailments or allergies and hasn't been to the doc except for preventative 'well visits' was postponed 2 months....for no reason...which also held up the rest of our family....we patitioned it and they said "it's the rules" I wanted to reply with: Is it also a rule that I eff YOUR MOTHER IN THE A? cause I did....My point exactly.... I wish you would have replied that way... |
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Post by scooterfanatic on Jul 29, 2008 14:39:56 GMT -5
Why can't they just live up to the republican ideal and entrepeneur their way out of this predicament? There'd be no problems if everyone was a business owner! Everything you say is anti-republican. It's because you have no intelligent response to the problem so you just blame it on somebody. The liberal way! And it's all bush's fault i'm sure. You know what? You're right. This post had nothing to do with republicans or democrats. What I said served no useful constructive purpose. I apologize. |
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Post by providencecrow on Jul 30, 2008 20:28:34 GMT -5
By the way. What is your solution to our dear friend's rant? I have no idea what his solution is but i have one: Instead of getting the government more involved with all this stuff, make them substantially less involved. Then there is no incentive. |
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Post by ratrad on Jul 31, 2008 11:31:59 GMT -5
By the way. What is your solution to our dear friend's rant? I have no idea what his solution is but i have one: Instead of getting the government more involved with all this stuff, make them substantially less involved. Then there is no incentive. You mean give the private health corporations that have politicians on their boards of directors more power? Sheesh, I better start eating right and getting into shape. |
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Post by wienerpoopie on Jul 31, 2008 11:36:56 GMT -5
I have no idea what his solution is but i have one: Instead of getting the government more involved with all this stuff, make them substantially less involved. Then there is no incentive. You mean give the private health corporations that have politicians on their boards of directors more power? Sheesh, I better start eating right and getting into shape. +1 |
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Post by dasbow on Jul 31, 2008 13:04:09 GMT -5
I have no idea what his solution is but i have one: Instead of getting the government more involved with all this stuff, make them substantially less involved. Then there is no incentive. You mean give the private health corporations that have politicians on their boards of directors more power? Sheesh, I better start eating right and getting into shape. And why exactly do you think these corporations feel the need to put politicians on their boards? |
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Post by wienerpoopie on Jul 31, 2008 13:06:22 GMT -5
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Post by dasbow on Jul 31, 2008 13:17:41 GMT -5
And the way they get that is by making nice with the people who have the power of legal life or death for corporations. Did you know that Microsoft used to be averse to government intrusion in their industry until the DoJ sued them for antitrust violations (the first pinprick in the tech bubble bursting). Now they use lobbyists as aggressively as any company out there. When the Government gets involved in your business, the only way to survive is to learn to play the Washington Game. news.cnet.com/2010-1071_3-1021938.html |
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Post by wienerpoopie on Jul 31, 2008 13:21:08 GMT -5
Think whatever you want, Canada has a proven system…we don’t and nether do you so I say privities it.
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Post by wienerpoopie on Jul 31, 2008 13:22:16 GMT -5
And what the eff does Microsoft have to do with health care?
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Post by dasbow on Jul 31, 2008 13:34:19 GMT -5
And what the eff does Microsoft have to do with health care? It's the same principle. Healthcare, Microsoft, Higher Education. You name it, if the government gets involved in it, costs are going up. And you have to start playing the political game - lobbyists, donations, public relations, politicians on the board. All to protect your interests, and try to make sure regulations don't doom your business. |
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Post by wienerpoopie on Jul 31, 2008 13:37:34 GMT -5
This is so inaccurate it blows my mind; healthcare is different then all other companies because insurance is involved.
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Post by kaboobie92 on Jul 31, 2008 13:37:58 GMT -5
And what the eff does Microsoft have to do with health care? It's the same principle. Healthcare, Microsoft, Higher Education. You name it, if the government gets involved in it, costs are going up. And you have to start playing the political game - lobbyists, donations, public relations, politicians on the board. All to protect your interests, and try to make sure regulations don't doom your business. exactly. And wienerpoopie, if you like Canada so much why don't u move there? |
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Post by wienerpoopie on Jul 31, 2008 13:46:28 GMT -5
It's the same principle. Healthcare, Microsoft, Higher Education. You name it, if the government gets involved in it, costs are going up. And you have to start playing the political game - lobbyists, donations, public relations, politicians on the board. All to protect your interests, and try to make sure regulations don't doom your business. exactly. And wienerpoopie, if you like Canada so much why don't u move there? Your stupidity is hard to wrap my brain around, were did I say I love Canada so much shit for brains. All I said is they have a great health care program. |
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Post by kaboobie92 on Jul 31, 2008 13:50:08 GMT -5
Can't take a joke can ya.
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Post by wienerpoopie on Jul 31, 2008 13:59:50 GMT -5
Can't take a joke can ya. If that was a joke to you then your sense of humor sucks… |
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Post by kaboobie92 on Jul 31, 2008 14:10:16 GMT -5
well it wasnt really a joke. It was a "If you like their system more, go there!" comment.
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Post by ratrad on Jul 31, 2008 15:58:19 GMT -5
And the way they get that is by making nice with the people who have the power of legal life or death for corporations. Did you know that Microsoft used to be averse to government intrusion in their industry until the DoJ sued them for antitrust violations (the first pinprick in the tech bubble bursting). Now they use lobbyists as aggressively as any company out there. When the Government gets involved in your business, the only way to survive is to learn to play the Washington Game. news.cnet.com/2010-1071_3-1021938.htmlI don't think my nor my daughters health is a business. Health care is not a business. Business is harsh and heartless. I don't think health care should be a part of something that has been defined that way. |
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Post by providencecrow on Jul 31, 2008 16:40:09 GMT -5
You mean give the private health corporations that have politicians on their boards of directors more power? Sheesh, I better start eating right and getting into shape. And why exactly do you think these corporations feel the need to put politicians on their boards? Great reason why, when the politicians get involved, they help stifle the competition. Perfect example: ISPs. If i want cable internet in my area i have 1 choice: Comcast. Why? because our local government has a deal with comcast to keep other companies out. I have two other options for internet here, which are DSL and telephone line. I'm screwed because the government is involved. No government involvement = free market = allowance for competition to actually try. If i had any other option for cable internet i would ditch comcast faster than you can say "Eff you comcast" |
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Post by wingospagettio on Jul 31, 2008 19:05:52 GMT -5
It's the same principle. Healthcare, Microsoft, Higher Education. You name it, if the government gets involved in it, costs are going up. And you have to start playing the political game - lobbyists, donations, public relations, politicians on the board. All to protect your interests, and try to make sure regulations don't doom your business. exactly. And wienerpoopie, if you like Canada so much why don't u move there? Elrushbo!Bringing it strong! Watch out Dems, Hannity's little brother's getting pissed. |
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Post by ratrad on Jul 31, 2008 19:54:06 GMT -5
It's the same principle. Healthcare, Microsoft, Higher Education. You name it, if the government gets involved in it, costs are going up. And you have to start playing the political game - lobbyists, donations, public relations, politicians on the board. All to protect your interests, and try to make sure regulations don't doom your business. exactly. And wienerpoopie, if you like Canada so much why don't u move there? I know you were joking, but if you don't like our current system or where it is going, you are free to leave as well. I love my country, not so much the people or the policies that run it. Therefore, I find it my mission to make the country better, by looking for the best solution for the whole country and not just what is best for me. I don't like to see the poor struggle or the uninsured to go with out health care. While I don't necessarily need universal health care myself, I will gladly pay (pretty close to the same amount I'm paying for insurance now) to help others. I don't have health issues, but I am still throwing my money away on insurance I don't use, so why not benefit others instead of just making people rich for a service I am not using. For your info, I am a poor graduate student. I am working two jobs so don't tell me that I should "find a job if I'm so poor", because I have two. |
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