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Post by providencecrow on Sept 3, 2008 17:04:10 GMT -5
I honestly think that it goes to prove that she is like the rest of us. Her family life isn't perfect but she deals with the challenges that come along the best way that she and her family can. There are so many in this world that are young and pregnant without being married. I think it goes well to her family values that she plans on sticking beside her daughter and her helping her through this time. I think it also goes to show just how effective the "Abstinence Only" Sex Education is. No it just means it isnt being drilled into peoples brains enough, that's all |
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Post by The Biff Lebowski on Sept 3, 2008 19:13:53 GMT -5
[ I think it also goes to show just how effective the "Abstinence Only" Sex Education is. One case does? What about the millions of teens who don't get pregnant because they practice abstinence? |
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Post by lovegrenade on Sept 4, 2008 8:52:06 GMT -5
Practicing Abstinence isn't the problem. ONLY teaching abstinence is the problem. Teenagers have sex and they always have. Teenagers who have sex and don't use protection get pregnant and they always have. If people want to pretend that teenagers are going to not have sex because they have been taught that Abstinence is the only asnwer, that's fine, but they shouldn't be suprised when their daughters get knocked up.
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Post by The Biff Lebowski on Sept 4, 2008 11:46:08 GMT -5
Practicing Abstinence isn't the problem. ONLY teaching abstinence is the problem. Teenagers have sex and they always have. Teenagers who have sex and don't use protection get pregnant and they always have. If people want to pretend that teenagers are going to not have sex because they have been taught that Abstinence is the only asnwer, that's fine, but they shouldn't be suprised when their daughters get knocked up. I'm of the opinion that sex education is not the responsibility of the government in the first place. That said, to my knowledge no government school teaches "abstinence only" except to say that "only abstinence can prevent pregnancy and STD". |
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Post by Mad Dog on Sept 4, 2008 15:36:32 GMT -5
Lets get this thread back on track. I think that Sarah Palin's Speech last night was one of the best speeches I have heard since Ronald Regan was in office. She is going to be a great V.P., although I'm biased because I think I have a growing crush on her. Whoo Hoo!!
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Post by ahrorah on Sept 10, 2008 8:32:19 GMT -5
What do you call a girl who is taught abstinence only and no sex education? Bristol Palin
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Post by High Duke on Sept 11, 2008 19:21:40 GMT -5
I cant believe anyone thinks that any of the candidates are prepared to lead anything short of a marching band. this country is fucked for sure. i know that people think Ralph Nader is boring but at least he is putting issues on the table. Yeah John and Sarah and Barrack and Biden give good speeches and so do millions of other assholes. this does not qualify one to be president. SO I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO SAY NO TO AMERICA. IT IS TIME TO TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK AND REINSTATE THE MEANING OF FREE. ha i hope nobody takes that last part to seriously. BUT REALLY FUCK SARAH PALIN SHE IS AN UGLY BITCH.
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Post by The Biff Lebowski on Sept 12, 2008 7:52:46 GMT -5
I BUT REALLY eff SARAH PALIN SHE IS AN UGLY BITCH. Disagree with her political stances or not, this is absurd. I'd hit it. A lot. |
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Post by Sunshyne on Sept 12, 2008 13:33:37 GMT -5
Parents can only teach their kids so much, they make their own choices. The only thing you can do is support them and help them through their mistakes.
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Post by airhornahole on Sept 12, 2008 13:35:12 GMT -5
Parents can only teach their kids so much, they make their own choices. The only thing you can do is support them and help them through their mistakes. And beat them with the back of your hand. ;D |
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Post by lurkingfinger on Sept 12, 2008 18:35:50 GMT -5
Party loyalty is ridiculous. When Kennedy was president he stated that we would do every possible thing we can to get a man on the moon....and we did....with less computer technology than the power of my cell phone.
We could do the same as far as giving up dependency on foreign oil. However, neither party wants to do everything we can. Democrats say they will do a little bit here and republicans say they will do a little bit there....yet no one will bite the bullet and do what needs to be done because they will piss off certain groups. We could increase drilling, and increase nuclear power and increase regulations on vehicles all at the same time and free ourselves from dependency on foreign oil, but that would piss off certain groups and screw up party loyalty and contributions. Lobbyists should not be allowed in the U.S. govt. We are not really a democracy if we don't do in govt. what the people really want, but rather do what will support party contributors. The only one who has balls is Nader, but he just cant win and only fucks up elections. I live for the day both parties fall and people decide for themselves.
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Post by Mad Dog on Sept 13, 2008 19:42:05 GMT -5
Party loyalty is ridiculous.... I live for the day both parties fall and people decide for themselves. Sorry to disagree but I think the two party system is fine. It should be a verbal backyard brawl as a path to the White House. This IS how we decide for our self. And being passionate about your (our) views is as American as apple pie. I personally don't like the way main stream democrats think. Its OK, its just my opinion. It doesn't mean I think they should drop off the face of the earth, I'm just more generally more comfortable with the republican world view. Having said that, the debate and the battle for the Presidency is a healthy one. |
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Post by Mad Dog on Sept 13, 2008 20:17:15 GMT -5
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Post by speedbump on Sept 15, 2008 8:37:12 GMT -5
Party loyalty is ridiculous.... I live for the day both parties fall and people decide for themselves. Sorry to disagree but I think the two party system is fine. It should be a verbal backyard brawl as a path to the White House. This IS how we decide for our self. And being passionate about your (our) views is as American as apple pie. I personally don't like the way main stream democrats think. Its OK, its just my opinion. It doesn't mean I think they should drop off the face of the earth, I'm just more generally more comfortable with the republican world view. Having said that, the debate and the battle for the Presidency is a healthy one. I would agree, if it weren't for the fact that both candidates campaign commercials are almost always based on lies. |
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Post by hotzester on Sept 16, 2008 9:23:10 GMT -5
Regarding yesterday's mention of Sarah Palin's statement, "Our national leaders are sending U.S. soldiers on a task that is from God."
FBHW say they're not leaning one way or the other on the air, but then they repeated that quote without any mention of the ACTUAL quote.
What she actually said was, "Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do also what is right for this country -- that our leaders, our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to make sure we are praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."
It's funny how different a statement can be when you chop off the first bit of that statement. (Interesting side note: ABC mysteriously edited that line of questioning out of the West Coast airing of the same interview.)
If FBHW are only going to tell us one side, we owe it to ourselves to hear the other.
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Post by speedbump on Sept 16, 2008 18:15:39 GMT -5
Regarding yesterday's mention of Sarah Palin's statement, "Our national leaders are sending U.S. soldiers on a task that is from God." FBHW say they're not leaning one way or the other on the air, but then they repeated that quote without any mention of the ACTUAL quote. What she actually said was, "Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do also what is right for this country -- that our leaders, our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to make sure we are praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan." It's funny how different a statement can be when you chop off the first bit of that statement. (Interesting side note: ABC mysteriously edited that line of questioning out of the West Coast airing of the same interview.) If FBHW are only going to tell us one side, we owe it to ourselves to hear the other. I'm failing to see how the full quote changes the interpretation of what she said. Use your baby voice. |
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Post by hotzester on Sept 16, 2008 19:25:35 GMT -5
I'll do my best.
There's a world of difference between "Our national leaders are sending U.S. soldiers on a task that is from God" and "Pray that our national leaders are sending U.S. soldiers on a task that is from God."
In the former, the presentation is that of a statement of fact.
In the latter, it is given as a prayer for hope that what they're doing is right.
Anyone still confused?
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Post by Mad Dog on Sept 16, 2008 19:32:25 GMT -5
I'll do my best. There's a world of difference between "Our national leaders are sending U.S. soldiers on a task that is from God" and "Pray that our national leaders are sending U.S. soldiers on a task that is from God." In the former, the presentation is that of a statement of fact. In the latter, it is given as a prayer for hope that what they're doing is right. Anyone still confused? She was quoting Abe Lincoln as he used basicly the same words regarding the Civil War. |
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Post by motorboatking on Sept 16, 2008 22:48:09 GMT -5
What she's saying is pray that were on God's side- not that God's on our side. Pray that what we do is the correct thing to do. Not praying God bends to our will to help us win. Do I make sense?
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Post by hotzester on Sept 17, 2008 8:11:03 GMT -5
Hopefully between the three of us, none of us used words that were too big!
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Post by Sunshyne on Sept 17, 2008 15:34:34 GMT -5
I get it. It makes more sense with the actual quote. It is amazing that the media can manipulate things to sound good or bad depending on their views, who would have thought.
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Post by Mad Dog on Sept 17, 2008 17:59:09 GMT -5
As far as the media goes, I don't blame Mrs. Palin for not doing to many interveiws. Outside of Fox news, they obviously don't like her and are rooting for Obama. Charles Gibson seemed like he'd been thinking up his "gottcha" questions since she was nominated.
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Post by hotzester on Sept 17, 2008 19:06:32 GMT -5
I wish she'd do more interviews. The more she does, the more obvious it becomes exactly how biased the media is, and the more it gets people talking. The more we talk, the more we research, and the more educated our vote becomes!
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Post by mayorofawesometown on Sept 19, 2008 13:27:42 GMT -5
Regarding yesterday's mention of Sarah Palin's statement, "Our national leaders are sending U.S. soldiers on a task that is from God." FBHW say they're not leaning one way or the other on the air, but then they repeated that quote without any mention of the ACTUAL quote. What she actually said was, "Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do also what is right for this country -- that our leaders, our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to make sure we are praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan." It's funny how different a statement can be when you chop off the first bit of that statement. (Interesting side note: ABC mysteriously edited that line of questioning out of the West Coast airing of the same interview.) If FBHW are only going to tell us one side, we owe it to ourselves to hear the other. You do realize that the guys are conservative, right? They've said many times that they've pretty much voted republican all of their lives. I really don't think that they were trying to make Palin look bad if that's what you're getting at. If it's not then my bad. |
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Post by mayorofawesometown on Sept 19, 2008 13:31:10 GMT -5
As far as the media goes, I don't blame Mrs. Palin for not doing to many interveiws. Outside of Fox news, they obviously don't like her and are rooting for Obama. Charles Gibson seemed like he'd been thinking up his "gottcha" questions since she was nominated. I'd actually like her to do more interviews. Out of the four candidates she's the one we know the least about. I understand what you're saying about the media but I would still rather see her seize the opportunity. This is her chance to become well read and informed and to crush the interviewers. It's either that or she stays in hiding and people loss faith in her. I'd rather see her at least try to answer a lot of questions in a lot of interviews than run and hide from the big bad liberal media. Personally? I'm usually liberal but I'm very indecided this year. I'm leaning towards Obama/Biden but by no means is my mind made up. If Palin refuses to answer questions until she's forced to in the debates then that pushes me closer towards the democratic ticket. The world is effed. I want answers. |
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Post by Mad Dog on Sept 19, 2008 17:02:22 GMT -5
As far as the media goes, I don't blame Mrs. Palin for not doing to many interveiws. Outside of Fox news, they obviously don't like her and are rooting for Obama. Charles Gibson seemed like he'd been thinking up his "gottcha" questions since she was nominated. I'd actually like her to do more interviews. Out of the four candidates she's the one we know the least about. I understand what you're saying about the media but I would still rather see her seize the opportunity. This is her chance to become well read and informed and to crush the interviewers. It's either that or she stays in hiding and people loss faith in her. I'd rather see her at least try to answer a lot of questions in a lot of interviews than run and hide from the big bad liberal media. Personally? I'm usually liberal but I'm very indecided this year. I'm leaning towards Obama/Biden but by no means is my mind made up. If Palin refuses to answer questions until she's forced to in the debates then that pushes me closer towards the democratic ticket. The world is effed. I want answers. Thats actually a pretty cool world view. I think that she should stay with interviewers that are going to be fair to her. Not necessarily some one who agrees with her politically like her inter veiw with Sean Hannity, although thats ok to. She just needs to stay away from interveiwers who are out to get her. |
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Post by speedbump on Sept 20, 2008 10:52:12 GMT -5
I'd actually like her to do more interviews. Out of the four candidates she's the one we know the least about. I understand what you're saying about the media but I would still rather see her seize the opportunity. This is her chance to become well read and informed and to crush the interviewers. It's either that or she stays in hiding and people loss faith in her. I'd rather see her at least try to answer a lot of questions in a lot of interviews than run and hide from the big bad liberal media. Personally? I'm usually liberal but I'm very indecided this year. I'm leaning towards Obama/Biden but by no means is my mind made up. If Palin refuses to answer questions until she's forced to in the debates then that pushes me closer towards the democratic ticket. The world is effed. I want answers. Thats actually a pretty cool world view. I think that she should stay with interviewers that are going to be fair to her. Not necessarily some one who agrees with her politically like her inter veiw with Sean Hannity, although thats ok to. She just needs to stay away from interveiwers who are out to get her. Palin + Colbert would probably be the funniest interview I've ever seen. |
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Post by hotsauce on Sept 20, 2008 17:48:18 GMT -5
I would like to see her interview with Glenn Beck and I wonder if whe will interview with Bill O'Reilly
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Post by Mad Dog on Sept 21, 2008 11:37:57 GMT -5
Oh, I think she'll hit O'Reilly. Actually I think he mentioned that she was going to be on.
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Post by drunkenmom on Sept 26, 2008 5:47:00 GMT -5
she seems slow.
which is not an especially good thing.
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