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Post by Opus on Sept 4, 2008 12:15:44 GMT -5
I've recently actually had this debate with a colleague.
My stance is to go ahead an lower it.
Based on not only my experience, but what I saw of my friends, and what I see of my brother and his friends who are 7 years behind me, the college years (18-22 on avg) are the drinking years. These are the times where most young people are out getting smashed, thinking its the greatest thing in the world.
The problem is, is that since they cannot do it legally in a bar, they do it at home before they go out for the night. So they start out drunk, then get in a car and drive. They are also more apt to be binge drinking and shotgunning to get the alcohol in their systems quicker.
By legalizing it for these people, we can put them in bars, where they will spend their money (helping the economy), can be monitored by the bartenders who can cut them off when they have had enough, can be out with other friends who will hopefully designate a driver, and subsequently be more responsible about their drinking because of these factors.
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Post by jaydethespaz on Sept 4, 2008 12:50:24 GMT -5
Because it's a touch subject potthole. But sadly, i have to agree with FUCKTARD on this one. No crap, that's why I left it here.  When I made that initial post that you quoted, the thread was in the main FBHW board. At the time, I didn't realize this had been spoken about on the show, and figured FUCKTARD was just spamming. o i c i didn't check the date. |
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Post by jaydethespaz on Sept 4, 2008 12:50:58 GMT -5
LOL YEAH WHAT SHE SAID ! ! ! I thought you loved me FUCKTARD? i don't get karma for agreeing with you? (j/k) you're mean FUCKTARD |
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Post by airhornahole on Sept 4, 2008 13:30:51 GMT -5
Growing up near Detroit, we just went to Canada. However, like Torque, being around it my entire life made it lose it luster. Drinking was no big deal.
I think that if they lower the drinking age, there will still be the people who binge drink, that won't stop. However, the casual drinking will increase and, I think, result in more drunk driving.
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Post by jaydethespaz on Sept 5, 2008 16:50:48 GMT -5
ahhhh canada! good times good times!
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Post by Mad Dog on Sept 14, 2008 14:02:30 GMT -5
18 year olds can barely operate a vehicle as it is now with cell phones, mp3, gps in the car. I'm afraid the drunk driving accidents would increase 100% when adding a lower drinking age to the equation. I would give thought to FUCKTARD's suggestion though. I suppose you've ridden with all eighteen year olds to know how well they all drive?? Both my kids are very good drivers and neither one of them are eighteen yet, but thats probably just me. All the other ones have to be bad drivers. |
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Post by Sunshyne on Sept 17, 2008 16:17:26 GMT -5
I grew up around drinking and was told about being responsible with it at an early age, I had a small glass of wine with dinner when i was little on holidays (christmas & thanksgiving). My grandpop was an alcoholic for awhile and was used as an example of what not to do. I waited until i was 21 to do my partying in college and until then i was the D.D. Now i drink maybe once a month, never get drunk till I puke, hangovers aren't worth it, Hopefully when i have kids I will be able to teach them the same responsibility. I don't think that lowering the drinking age will help anything. I don't even know if some of the guys in the Military should drink any younger than 21. I could see having a beer or two to relax and chill, but how many do you think will drink responsibly. On base they can do whatever, they are under base laws/ rules and overseen by someone more responsible than themselves. By all means let them drink on base, but the general american 18 year olds don't need to drink alcohol.
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Post by jaydethespaz on Sept 19, 2008 20:01:59 GMT -5
In my mind...if your old enough to sign up to get yourself killed or screwed up for a long time(like my uncle who just got back from Iraq) you should be able to have a beer in the bar when you get back to a country that you are protecting.
Short, sweet, and simple
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Post by PhanTom on Oct 10, 2008 16:19:41 GMT -5
I don't think they should lower the drinking age but I also don't think that they should be able to join the military or vote before what age is appropriate for what they consider to be of "adult age". Therefore if they think you should be able to put your life on the line for the country at 18 then yes - get a beer and a shot by all means; but if you will imagine the situation lower down and ponder it.
You have been drinking and can't drive at all to get home; you can hardly see and so on.
There is 5 people who can drive you home but they too have been drinking and you have no other choices but they each say they are sober enough to get you and themselves home safely. Sex has not been defined because I wanted to mainly concentrate on the age not the gender of the driver.
Car #1. An 18 year old - bac unknown (as in all these)
Car #2. A 19 year old - same
Car #3. A 20 year old - same
Car #4. A 21 year old - same
Car #5. A 22 year old - same
Which car would you most likely get into and feel that you would get safely home?
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Post by Torque on Oct 14, 2008 17:34:32 GMT -5
I understand the point you're trying to make but those ages could range from 16-80 and I'd still pick the person I think is the best driver and not consider age- hell I'd consider the type of car before driver age. There will always be a way to get alcohol, they're will always be unsafe idiot drivers. Responsible people will be the only ones negatively affected.
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Post by plumpenut on Oct 18, 2008 23:21:44 GMT -5
keep it where it is!
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Gun Totin' Mama!
