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Post by Jiggy on Jul 29, 2011 14:09:06 GMT -5
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Post by Opus on Jul 29, 2011 14:20:58 GMT -5
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Post by The Biff Lebowski on Jul 29, 2011 14:42:38 GMT -5
I'm rather happy.
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Post by Queenie on Jul 29, 2011 16:54:06 GMT -5
Is that Will Ferrell's father? aaaannnndddd, that was AWESOME!!!
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Post by Rebel on Jul 29, 2011 19:43:40 GMT -5
I'm way past mad. I'm just weary. I heard Free Beer say the other day that he thinks he might officially be a third party voter at this point. If he goes through with that, I'll applaud him. I don't care which third party anyone votes for--write in Harpo Marx, for all I care--but please, can we fire the D's and the R's now? Basil Marceaux.com would do a better job leading this country. |
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Post by Queenie on Jul 31, 2011 15:38:56 GMT -5
Not Basil. Please God no!
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Post by Sunshyne on Aug 2, 2011 9:20:34 GMT -5
The fiscal year ends in another month and guess what? Still no budget, and now Congress is taking a month off after they get done raising the debt limit. The Democrats have failed to submit a budget for the first two years of the Obama administration, Obama submitted a spend-fest one that was dead on arrival in February this year, the Republican Ryan budget that makes big cuts was pronounced dead on arrival when he presented it this spring and there is presently no budget for the next fiscal year. Get ready for the bullshit to start all over again as we face --- wait for it --- --- --- --- another gov't shutdown or endless continuing resolutions to fund the gov't while the fight starts afresh  |
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Post by Sunshyne on Aug 2, 2011 9:44:30 GMT -5
Ron paul on the new debt ceiling increase and the new "super congress" you haven't heard about.
"Rather than raising the debt limit, Congress should recognize the federal government has reached debt saturation and therefore stop incurring new debt! Federal revenues for 2012 likely will amount to about $2.2 trillion, an amount roughly equal to the 2004 federal budget. To balance the 2012 budget, Congress simply needs to adopt 2004 spending levels. Was the federal government really too small just 8 years ago?
But Washington has a serious spending addiction-- and in spite of all the talk about spending cuts, there are none contained in today’s legislation. According to the non-partisan CATO Institute, this bill merely commits Congress to spending less than it otherwise would. Even if this Congress could bind a future congress, I doubt many Americans would define a cut as spending less on unconstitutional programs than Congress originally planned to spend. The bill also assumes large tax increases in its revenue projections, with the expiration of the Bush tax cuts at the end of 2012 calculated into the “baseline” numbers. This assumption will make it very difficult politically for Republicans to extend current tax rates beyond 2012.
"Perhaps the most disturbing aspect of this deal is the “Super Congress” provision. This is nothing more than a way to disenfranchise the majority of Congress by denying them the chance for meaningful participation in the crucial areas of entitlement and tax reform. It cedes power to draft legislation to a special commission, hand-picked by the House and Senate leadership. The legislation produced by this commission will be fast-tracked, and Members will not have the opportunity to offer amendments. Approval of the recommendations of the “Super Congress” is tied to yet another debt ceiling increase. This guarantees that Members will face tremendous pressure to vote for whatever comes out of this commission-- even if it includes tax increases. This provision is an excellent way to keep spending decisions out of the reach of members who are not on board with the leadership's agenda."
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Post by Sunshyne on Aug 2, 2011 9:54:20 GMT -5
Our checks and balances that are supposed to keep our government corraled and prevent our constitutional rights from being trampled will be moot. our fate will be decided by 6 "republicans" and 6 "democrats". there won't be room for "third party voters" The Super Congress is picked by house and senate leadership, they won't be voted into place, and they have their own bills and legislation that they can get passed and sent to the president for approval before you can say "bill of rights".
This "great" idea is in the fine print of this bill that raises our debt ceiling, and doesn't even create a budget plan. Our govenment's Budget "plan" for the last three years has been, raise the ceiling, spend more money.
we are doomed.
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Post by Jiggy on Aug 5, 2011 11:03:45 GMT -5
"If the US Government [were] a family, they would be making $58,000 a year, they [would] spend $75,000 a year, and [would be] $327,000 in credit card debt. They are currently proposing BIG spending cuts to reduce their spending to $72,000 a year. These are the actual proportions of the federal budget and debt, reduced to a level that we can understand."
~ Dave Ramsey
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Post by The Biff Lebowski on Aug 5, 2011 11:21:41 GMT -5
Atrocious. That needs to be spread everywhere so these leeches can be informed and the government leeches will be stopped.
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Post by Rebel on Aug 5, 2011 23:08:52 GMT -5
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Gun Totin' Mama!
