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Post by kaboobie92 on Jun 26, 2008 13:58:20 GMT -5
just wanted to see how many conservatives there are compared to liberals. I'm a die hard conservative and just wanted to see what the ratio is like
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Post by wienerpoopie on Jun 26, 2008 14:01:49 GMT -5
I swing both ways, in politics that is
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Post by lovegrenade on Jun 26, 2008 14:09:26 GMT -5
My name's Sean and I'm a former Conservative. I've been clean now for 4 years, and I'm proud to say that I am now liberated.
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Post by Zig on Jun 26, 2008 14:48:53 GMT -5
I lean liberal on most (though not all) social stuff. Conservatives often give me an anti-science vibe. And I don't consider myself knowledgeable enough about economics to know where I stand in that arena.
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Post by ratrad on Jun 26, 2008 14:53:53 GMT -5
I've been known to be called "commie pinko bastard" in the past. I'm alright with it.
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Post by providencecrow on Jun 26, 2008 16:55:09 GMT -5
I am not really either. I mean im a Libertarian which i suppose is fairly conservative, but i wouldnt call myself "A Conservative" by any stretch of the imagination.
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Post by theterribletwist on Jun 27, 2008 19:15:27 GMT -5
I am not really either. I mean im a Libertarian which i suppose is fairly conservative, but i wouldnt call myself "A Conservative" by any stretch of the imagination. Libertarians will one day free America from the oppressive liberals and neocons! I too am a libertarian because unlike many Americans, I am not afraid to live without oppression. |
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Post by Mad Dog on Jun 28, 2008 9:30:15 GMT -5
I'm all for leaving people too their own devices so i guess i'm a liberitarian, but when i vote it is strictly republican because i have hated every democrat since Jimmy carter and the Liberitaian party has 0 chance of getting elected
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Post by hotzester on Jun 28, 2008 10:13:31 GMT -5
I'm more conservative than liberal, so I do classify myself as a Conservative. I've been registered as a Democrat, and I've been registered as a Republican.
Unfortunately, there's not really a party that I fall completely in line with.
I:
~Rarely curse
~Am pro-life
~Am a Christian
~Have no problem with gay people, they can do what they want, I just don't think they need to be "married". I'm even in favor of civil unions, just don't call it marriage.
~Am a proud supporter of the 2nd Amendment
~Am pro-military
~Support President Bush and my brothers/sisters in their current missions.
~Believe marijuana should be legalized, because prohibition has NEVER worked (not a very conservative position at all, is it?)
~Believe in a smaller government, with lower taxes for ALL Americans
~Am horrified at the thought of socialized healthcare
~Am in favor of zero tolerance when it comes to illegal immigration. If you want to come here, awesome. But do it illegally or we're kicking you out and you'll NEVER make it here again.
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Post by FUCKTARD ! on Jun 28, 2008 10:38:57 GMT -5
I'm more conservative than liberal, so I do classify myself as a Conservative. I've been registered as a Democrat, and I've been registered as a Republican. Unfortunately, there's not really a party that I fall completely in line with. I: ~Rarely curse ~Am pro-life ~Am a Christian ~Have no problem with gay people, they can do what they want, I just don't think they need to be "married". I'm even in favor of civil unions, just don't call it marriage. ~Am a proud supporter of the 2nd Amendment ~Am pro-military ~Support President Bush and my brothers/sisters in their current missions. ~Believe marijuana should be legalized, because prohibition has NEVER worked (not a very conservative position at all, is it?) ~Believe in a smaller government, with lower taxes for ALL Americans ~Am horrified at the thought of socialized healthcare ~Am in favor of zero tolerance when it comes to illegal immigration. If you want to come here, awesome. But do it illegally or we're kicking you out and you'll NEVER make it here again. Damn man, other than the fucking cursing, I think you and I might be twins. |
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Post by hotzester on Jun 28, 2008 13:22:02 GMT -5
Oh, I DO curse, I just try to keep it to a minimum. Otherwise who knows when it'll slip out?
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Post by captaincrunch on Jun 29, 2008 11:29:09 GMT -5
I'm right with you two hotzester and FUCKTARD. I think what the responses so far show is that most people don't follow part lines too strictly and there are a lot of us that just agree with personal freedom. I'm also one who would vote Libertarian if there was a chance of the candidate winning. I am so friggin scared of Obama winning this time, and the ensuing socialism, that I will have to support McCain. Personally, I think the time will come in the next 20 years that there will either be a revolution/ coup d'etat or we will see a third party come to power. After all, Thomas Jefferson did say that we should have a Revolution every 20 years.
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Post by hotsauce on Jun 29, 2008 12:10:54 GMT -5
i am mostly with you Hotzester. I do believe in abortion though. But only in the first three months. I Do not believe in the partial birth thing at all I think gay people should have rights just like man and women, but do not call it a marriage. Call it a civil union or something else, but don't call it a marriage. I hope that somewhere in the near future Bush will have been found to be a good president and that he made the right choice. I would't mind marijauna being legalized since it would help me with my pain. I would like more research done with stem cells so maybe thay could come up with a cure for my MS. I don't mind having people coming to America, but those that come should do it the right way. Follow the rules and learn to speak English. That is our language of choice. You are supposed to melt into us, not just come here and try to change us to be like you. Keep your national identity but realize that YOU came here to get away from what was there.
Sorry I guess i am rambling. I think I am pretty much a conservative.
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Post by speedbump on Jun 29, 2008 17:19:00 GMT -5
I recently read an article in Newsweek (Liberal leaning, I know) that said with the 1 trillion dollars spent in Iraq we could have repaired every school, bridge, and road. Enough money to create universal healthcare (I know, create, NOT fund), and to start Manhattan projects on alternative energy. Certainly this should be taken with a grain of salt, but you can't say the war has justified what developments we could have made. That's not even counting the lives lost and soldiers injured.
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Post by potthole on Jun 29, 2008 21:43:26 GMT -5
Overall I'd consider myself to be a conservative.
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Post by ahole on Jun 30, 2008 9:59:05 GMT -5
I recently read an article in Newsweek (Liberal leaning, I know) that said with the 1 trillion dollars spent in Iraq we could have repaired every school, bridge, and road. Enough money to create universal healthcare (I know, create, NOT fund), and to start Manhattan projects on alternative energy. Certainly this should be taken with a grain of salt, but you can't say the war has justified what developments we could have made. That's not even counting the lives lost and soldiers injured. Liberal leaning and then some. I can't think of a better way to spend a trillion dollars then to blow up countries. Universal Healthcare? Talk about boring me out of my effing mind. Lets blow some sh-t up instead. For example, I could have bought my family some healthy food for this upcoming weekend, but instead I spent my $200 of disposable income on some pretty effing sweet fireworks from Northern Indiana. I'm just like Dubya... awesome. |
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Post by cassierae on Jun 30, 2008 10:59:45 GMT -5
I'm an independent. I refuse to label myself!
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Post by Dino on Jun 30, 2008 14:11:08 GMT -5
I'm an independent. I refuse to label myself! Isn't that what you just did?  |
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Post by wienerpoopie on Jun 30, 2008 14:15:16 GMT -5
I'm an independent. I refuse to label myself! Sorry but Robin Hood takes from the rich and gives to the poor.....that's a Democrat |
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Post by madcap95 on Jun 30, 2008 14:30:17 GMT -5
Social Moderate
Fiscal Conservative
Which line do I have to get in?
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Post by ratrad on Jul 1, 2008 15:07:26 GMT -5
I'm more conservative than liberal, so I do classify myself as a Conservative. I've been registered as a Democrat, and I've been registered as a Republican. Unfortunately, there's not really a party that I fall completely in line with. I: ~Rarely curse ~Am pro-life ~Am a Christian ~Have no problem with gay people, they can do what they want, I just don't think they need to be "married". I'm even in favor of civil unions, just don't call it marriage. ~Am a proud supporter of the 2nd Amendment ~Am pro-military ~Support President Bush and my brothers/sisters in their current missions. ~Believe marijuana should be legalized, because prohibition has NEVER worked (not a very conservative position at all, is it?) ~Believe in a smaller government, with lower taxes for ALL Americans ~Am horrified at the thought of socialized healthcare ~Am in favor of zero tolerance when it comes to illegal immigration. If you want to come here, awesome. But do it illegally or we're kicking you out and you'll NEVER make it here again. By that, I'd say you almost fully fall in line with Republican, my friend. Embrace it, don't hide it. I used to always try to distance myself from the Dems, seeing as I don't agree with most of the Democrat politicians. It isn't worth it. I am, who I am. |
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Post by hotzester on Jul 1, 2008 18:31:34 GMT -5
Oh I'm very much a registered Republican, for the reason you stated. However, I'm a REASONABLE Republican, particularly when it comes to gay marriage. Like I said, be gay. I don't care. Just don't bitch that you can't have a marriage like I do, when you're not like I am.
Be different, that's cool. Accept it. Be proud of it.
I just have a hard time accepting someone's desires to be "treated as equals" while they're marching in a parade to remind us how fundamentally different we are.
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Post by ahole on Jul 2, 2008 8:00:15 GMT -5
Oh I'm very much a registered Republican, for the reason you stated. However, I'm a REASONABLE Republican, particularly when it comes to gay marriage. Like I said, be gay. I don't care. Just don't bitch that you can't have a marriage like I do, when you're not like I am. Be different, that's cool. Accept it. Be proud of it. I just have a hard time accepting someone's desires to be "treated as equals" while they're marching in a parade to remind us how fundamentally different we are. Oh my God, you're SOOOO Right! Because "Separate but Equal" has always made for successful public policy! |
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Post by kaboobie92 on Jul 2, 2008 12:00:31 GMT -5
i agree with hotzester to a point. Its almost like affirmative action. Affirmative action is racist. Correct me if i'm wrong but people want to be equal correct? So by helping them get accepted into college over students that have worked just as hard or harder in school we are making things equal? i didn't think so. A little off topic, but I think it kind of applies to the whole marriage thing. I am against it because of my religious convictions, but marriage is a sacred thing.
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Post by The Biff Lebowski on Jul 2, 2008 13:00:16 GMT -5
Oh my God, you're SOOOO Right! Because "Separate but Equal" has always made for successful public policy! Gay people can get married. There is zero marriage discrimination against them anywhere in the United States. |
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Post by ratrad on Jul 2, 2008 13:25:50 GMT -5
i agree with hotzester to a point. Its almost like affirmative action. Affirmative action is racist. Correct me if i'm wrong but people want to be equal correct? So by helping them get accepted into college over students that have worked just as hard or harder in school we are making things equal? i didn't think so. A little off topic, but I think it kind of applies to the whole marriage thing. I am against it because of my religious convictions, but marriage is a sacred thing. I took a class that actually went really into depth about Affirm Act. I used to be way against it, but after everything was explained, it made sense. |
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Post by ratrad on Jul 2, 2008 13:27:04 GMT -5
Oh I'm very much a registered Republican, for the reason you stated. However, I'm a REASONABLE Republican, particularly when it comes to gay marriage. Like I said, be gay. I don't care. Just don't bitch that you can't have a marriage like I do, when you're not like I am. Be different, that's cool. Accept it. Be proud of it. I just have a hard time accepting someone's desires to be "treated as equals" while they're marching in a parade to remind us how fundamentally different we are. Oh my God, you're SOOOO Right! Because "Separate but Equal" has always made for successful public policy! Holy crap! I was totally going to tell him that what he wrote leaves sooo many slippery slope issues it almost made my head explode. |
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Post by speedbump on Jul 2, 2008 15:10:44 GMT -5
Oh my God, you're SOOOO Right! Because "Separate but Equal" has always made for successful public policy! Gay people can get married. There is zero marriage discrimination against them anywhere in the United States. They can't get married to someone else of the same sex, which is kind of the issue. "You gain +10 to nit picking" |
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Post by The Biff Lebowski on Jul 2, 2008 15:16:15 GMT -5
Gay people can get married. There is zero marriage discrimination against them anywhere in the United States. They can't get married to someone else of the same sex, which is kind of the issue. "You gain +10 to nit picking" So there's no civil rights violations right? They can get married just like straight people, right? |
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Post by wienerpoopie on Jul 2, 2008 15:22:31 GMT -5
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