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Post by ratrad on Jul 29, 2008 10:44:33 GMT -5
I was thinking about that and it seems to me that there was a mysterious ship that was being tracked because it was suspected of having "interesting" cargo. The story seemed to die and I don't remember reading anything else about it. This doesn't change my opinion on it all. Hussein wasn't stupid. He knew about satellite tracking et al. BTW, the only thing they would have to move were the warheads and elements. Have they found missile bodies? I'd think that we would have heard a hell of a lot more than what we have, if there were even the slightest possibility that this mystery train was shipping WMDs. They surely could've tracked were the train was going and started a search there. I think believing Saddam shipped out WMDs that could've been picked up by satellite, but weren't, is giving the president the benefit of the doubt. I understand you want to do that, whereas I do not. I'm not saying I'm perfect, either. I firmly believe I was duped. After 9/11, I wanted blood, and stupidly believed that everyone in the Middle East belonged to the same "hate America" club. When Bush said Iraq = bad, I swallowed the hook. I willingly let him talk me into believing Iraq had something to do with 9/11, and didn't start believing I made a mistake until years later. I loved Dubya and craved his warmongering ways. I wanted blood - any Middle Eastern blood would due. I think he willingly redirected the same "kill Obama" sentiment in all of us. And I'm kinda pissed about that. ME TOO!! I voted for that dude! Did you mean "Kill OSama"? |
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Post by jaydethespaz on Jul 29, 2008 10:50:43 GMT -5
Hate the war ? Okay, that's your right. Hate the administration that perpetuates the war ? Okay that's your right too. But for F's sake man, do not talk shit about the soldiers okay ? Thanks. (my nephew is one of the guys who is defending your freedom ) Yea my uncle just got back. I really think that the war is stupid, but no one has the right to rip on the people that do go over there and either get really F-ed up or die while people here sit on their couch and bitch about it. If anyone rips on someone like that, they can all go to hell! I exalt you man! |
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Post by scooterfanatic on Jul 29, 2008 10:53:37 GMT -5
So far all the arguments I've seen for Saddam having WMDs in 2003 were "oh well there was this mystery train X" or "there was this mystery boat Y" or "well Saddam was a bad guy so of course he had them!" All these are are hunches, guesses, and dare I say wishful thinking.
I don't believe in sending people to war over hunches, guesses, and wishful thinking. The facts for the justification of the Iraq War were cobbled-together at best. Now, we're there, regardless of the reasons, and it seems we're stuck.
John McCain does have a point when he says that we're there now, and pulling out immediately has the potential to cause more harm and more terrorism. The fact is though that he, nor any other neocon, has defined what the goals are in Iraq other than some vague concepts.
I'll support us staying in Iraq for a few more years if someone has a good, specific, effective plan of stabilizing Iraq. Maybe not a "time-table" but a "task-table." No one has put forth a plan and said "this is what needs to be done in Iraq, once these tasks are accomplished, we no longer need to be there." I just don't see that with John McCain. The other parties just want to pull us out immediately, which could cause more harm than good. I don't see a commitment from John McCain to stop this foolhardy cowboy mentality when it comes to foreign policy, either. And quite frankly, I don't see it from Barack Obama. What good is an effective strategy to stabilize a region after messing it up on bad information if we keep making that initial mistake? Remember, it was the Democrats who got us into Vietnam.
Meanwhile, we managed to avoid war with the Soviet Union for almost half a century for Christ's sake! We stood fast against a hostile nation with a nuclear arsenal ready to wipe us off the map at a moments notice! They were a FAR greater threat than Saddam and his 1950's technology was. Yet, in that case, we chose diplomacy. Now we're quivering in our boots over some goat herders with a few grenades and some old Toyotas? Is it because we're only willing to go to war with nations that are far weaker militarily than us?
How exactly do we "win" this war on terror anyway? Bombing people just makes them more resolved to fight against us. Terrorism is a terrible thing, but you are still far more likely to die in a car crash than a terrorist attack. Safety is an illusion. No government, no army, no piece of technology can ever, EVER make us safe.
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Post by scooterfanatic on Jul 29, 2008 10:59:44 GMT -5
Hate the war ? Okay, that's your right. Hate the administration that perpetuates the war ? Okay that's your right too. But for F's sake man, do not talk shit about the soldiers okay ? Thanks. (my nephew is one of the guys who is defending your freedom ) Yea my uncle just got back. I really think that the war is stupid, but no one has the right to rip on the people that do go over there and either get really F-ed up or die while people here sit on their couch and bitch about it. If anyone rips on someone like that, they can all go to hell! I exalt you man! See I knew this would happen. I knew people would just read the title and a few choice sentences and totally miss the point of what I was saying. I knew they'd do that because that's what they wanted to think in the first place. Saying that the troops aren't fighting for my freedom in this one instance does not mean that I hate the troops or even what they actually are doing in Iraq. It does not mean that I don't think they are even doing good things over in Iraq and it does not mean that I don't applaud them for doing that. I love the troops just as much as anybody else. I just love them for what they actually are doing. Soldiers protect my freedom in general by being ready and willing to fight against actual threats to it, but saying that they are fighting in Iraq for my freedom is like saying they are warding tigers away from my house. I'm not threatened by Tigers in the first place, and Iraq was not threatening my freedom in 2003. Osama Bin Laden is the one who threatens my freedom, and he is the one that needs to be focused on. He is the mastermind of 9/11, so why is he not a "priority" to Mr. Bush? |
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Post by Fistor on Jul 29, 2008 11:24:36 GMT -5
Have they found missile bodies? I'd think that we would have heard a hell of a lot more than what we have, if there were even the slightest possibility that this mystery train was shipping WMDs. They surely could've tracked were the train was going and started a search there. I think believing Saddam shipped out WMDs that could've been picked up by satellite, but weren't, is giving the president the benefit of the doubt. I understand you want to do that, whereas I do not. I'm not saying I'm perfect, either. I firmly believe I was duped. After 9/11, I wanted blood, and stupidly believed that everyone in the Middle East belonged to the same "hate America" club. When Bush said Iraq = bad, I swallowed the hook. I willingly let him talk me into believing Iraq had something to do with 9/11, and didn't start believing I made a mistake until years later. I loved Dubya and craved his warmongering ways. I wanted blood - any Middle Eastern blood would due. I think he willingly redirected the same "kill Obama" sentiment in all of us. And I'm kinda pissed about that. ME TOO!! I voted for that dude! Did you mean "Kill OSama"? Heh....whoops. |
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Post by Fistor on Jul 29, 2008 11:25:25 GMT -5
Yea my uncle just got back. I really think that the war is stupid, but no one has the right to rip on the people that do go over there and either get really F-ed up or die while people here sit on their couch and bitch about it. K. No one here did that, in case you were wondering. |
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Post by Fistor on Jul 29, 2008 11:30:40 GMT -5
Yea my uncle just got back. I really think that the war is stupid, but no one has the right to rip on the people that do go over there and either get really F-ed up or die while people here sit on their couch and bitch about it. If anyone rips on someone like that, they can all go to hell! I exalt you man! See I knew this would happen. I knew people would just read the title and a few choice sentences and totally miss the point of what I was saying. I knew they'd do that because that's what they wanted to think in the first place. Saying that the troops aren't fighting for my freedom in this one instance does not mean that I hate the troops or even what they actually are doing in Iraq. It does not mean that I don't think they are even doing good things over in Iraq and it does not mean that I don't applaud them for doing that. I love the troops just as much as anybody else. I just love them for what they actually are doing. Soldiers protect my freedom in general by being ready and willing to fight against actual threats to it, but saying that they are fighting in Iraq for my freedom is like saying they are warding tigers away from my house. I'm not threatened by Tigers in the first place, and Iraq was not threatening my freedom in 2003. Osama Bin Laden is the one who threatens my freedom, and he is the one that needs to be focused on. He is the mastermind of 9/11, so why is he not a "priority" to Mr. Bush? A few of us actually understand what you're saying, for what it's worth. I agree with everything you've said in this post. Shame some people aren't willing to engage in a civilized discussion without the desire to be insulted getting in the way. |
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Post by Mad Dog on Jul 29, 2008 15:08:39 GMT -5
Apparently your a blind idiot with no life experience You go ahead and believe that. If you would like too change my mind then quit being such an idiot and quit telling me I am naive. Obviously I'm not the only person on this board that thinks that the United States of America did the right thing in taking out Hussein. With or without WMD's. You need too wake up too the fact that their are certain people in the world that would love to see America go extinct, and I, for one am against that happening. You cannot reason with people like that you can only keep on killing them until the fight is out of the whole lot. That is exactly why we have a military that needs too be number one in the world, too break and kill those who would do the same likewise. |
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Post by Fistor on Jul 29, 2008 15:13:54 GMT -5
You go ahead and believe that. If you would like too change my mind then quit being such an idiot and quit telling me I am naive. Obviously I'm not the only person on this board that thinks that the United States of America did the right thing in taking out Hussein. With or without WMD's. You need too wake up too the fact that their are certain people in the world that would love to see America go extinct, and I, for one am against that happening. You cannot reason with people like that you can only keep on killing them until the fight is out of the whole lot. That is exactly why we have a military that needs too be number one in the world, too break and kill those who would do the same likewise. This would be pretty much the exact wrong way to handle it, in my opinion. To radical muslims, being martyred is the ultimate achievement in life. They do not fear death, they embrace it. You aren't going to scare them into submission by killing some of them off, you'll only empower them. Also, it looks to me as if you're associating 9/11 with Iraq, and as we all know, the two are exclusive of each other. |
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Post by scooterfanatic on Jul 29, 2008 15:26:57 GMT -5
I don't think our military is number one in the world. I think they're very good and very well-trained, but I think if we ended up in a war with China for example, there is a very real possibility of them cleaning our clocks. It's good to have pride in your armed forces, but as the Bible says "pride is before a crash." We've had our victories and our humiliations. It's important to avoid not just underestimating the enemy, but overestimating our ability as well.
I see our armed forces as beeing tooled and trained (for the most part) to fight regimented enemies, the formal armies of other nations. We won the American Revolution against a military power with far greater training, tactics, and overall fire power using guerilla tactics. There is hardly any defense against a roadside bomb or people shooting at you from deep cover. Going up against that is why it takes a hell of a lot of guts to be a soldier.
Like I said, be proud of your soldiers, just don't delude yourself into thinking they're invincible.
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Post by ratrad on Jul 29, 2008 15:43:12 GMT -5
You go ahead and believe that. If you would like too change my mind then quit being such an idiot and quit telling me I am naive. Obviously I'm not the only person on this board that thinks that the United States of America did the right thing in taking out Hussein. With or without WMD's. You need too wake up too the fact that their are certain people in the world that would love to see America go extinct, and I, for one am against that happening. You cannot reason with people like that you can only keep on killing them until the fight is out of the whole lot. That is exactly why we have a military that needs too be number one in the world, too break and kill those who would do the same likewise. I'm sorry my friend. If you believe everything that you are told by pundits with out doing your own research than you are naive. Sorry. |
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Post by Mad Dog on Jul 29, 2008 16:08:57 GMT -5
Sorry Fistor, I've read alot of your posts and you seem too be pretty cool but in this case I disagree. If every radical militant Muslim were too commit suicide in two minutes guess what? There would be NO MORE radical militant Muslims left too strap on suicide bombs, set up IED's or too hijack jet liners etc etc etc too do innocent people harm. If they would like to commit suicide at the business end of an M16 or Abrams tank well bully for them. I've got a better idea. why don't they all just go home, take care of their family's and quit trying too destroy our soldiers and WE ALL would be better off.
Oh and as far as 9/11 having nothing too do with Iraq well sorry again. Don't you remember that just after U.S. forces pushed past Bag-dad that they uncovered and shut down dozens of terrorist training camps and in at least one or more of Saddam's Palaces were murals of the World trade center. Hummmmm I wonder why those were there. 1+1=2 I'm convinced that Saddam probably partied hard for weeks on the news that terrorists were successful in making a blow against the "Great Satan". Sorry Fistor, we'll have to agree to disagree on this one
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Post by Mad Dog on Jul 29, 2008 16:38:42 GMT -5
Ratrad, I do do my own research. Neither one of us can actually go to Iraq or get inside the White House ourselves too get first hand information or get inside of the minds of world leaders too find out 100% truth or lies. We all have sources of information that find more trustworthy or that when we hear it it rings true or false. We are continually get truths, lies, and innuendos from the left and the right.
But I know how I felt when I heard the news that the Iranian Embassy took 104 American hostages. I also know how I felt when I heard the news that a Truck bomb took out almost 400 marines in Lebanon. I recall how utterly pissed off I was when I heard the news that planes had crashed into the Twin Towers and how SOME BASTARD had too PAY!!
And those bastards are and were Saddam Hussein and Osama Binladin. One down one too go.
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Post by flyersfantn on Jul 29, 2008 17:25:53 GMT -5
I don't think our military is number one in the world. I think they're very good and very well-trained, but I think if we ended up in a war with China for example, there is a very real possibility of them cleaning our clocks. It's good to have pride in your armed forces, but as the Bible says "pride is before a crash." We've had our victories and our humiliations. It's important to avoid not just underestimating the enemy, but overestimating our ability as well. I see our armed forces as beeing tooled and trained (for the most part) to fight regimented enemies, the formal armies of other nations. We won the American Revolution against a military power with far greater training, tactics, and overall fire power using guerilla tactics. There is hardly any defense against a roadside bomb or people shooting at you from deep cover. Going up against that is why it takes a hell of a lot of guts to be a soldier. Like I said, be proud of your soldiers, just don't delude yourself into thinking they're invincible. You're a effing moron. I'll concede that China might have a formidable ground Army, but a war with them would likely be mostly won in the air, where we have the superiority. This is the part that pisses me off, when you said that there's no defense for roadside bombs, or counter-insurgent tactics. Who the eff do you think you are? You are a complete effing moron. the defense against roadside bombs is better armor as well as other tools implemented that I cant really discuss, becuase I'm not sure if it's a violation of opsec or not. Also, what do you think we've been doing all this time, sitting there with our thumbs up our asses waiting for terrorists to attack us. No, there has been extensive counter-insurgency training that I've personally taken part of and I can tell you we are much more prepared to fight a guerilla style war than you think. Why must you make it a habit to talk out of your ass all the time? If you're going to make stupid claims, trying finding a little research to back up your bullshit....oh, right....you can't. You dont know shit about the military or its tactics, stop trying to talk like you do or I will continue to rip you a new a-hole on a daily basis. |
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Post by kaboobie92 on Jul 30, 2008 6:14:12 GMT -5
I don't think our military is number one in the world. I think they're very good and very well-trained, but I think if we ended up in a war with China for example, there is a very real possibility of them cleaning our clocks. It's good to have pride in your armed forces, but as the Bible says "pride is before a crash." We've had our victories and our humiliations. It's important to avoid not just underestimating the enemy, but overestimating our ability as well. I see our armed forces as beeing tooled and trained (for the most part) to fight regimented enemies, the formal armies of other nations. We won the American Revolution against a military power with far greater training, tactics, and overall fire power using guerilla tactics. There is hardly any defense against a roadside bomb or people shooting at you from deep cover. Going up against that is why it takes a hell of a lot of guts to be a soldier. Like I said, be proud of your soldiers, just don't delude yourself into thinking they're invincible. "Be proud of your soldiers".. What the eff? As if they aren't your soldiers too? You obviously don't appreciate the troops, so maybe you should just move somewhere else. |
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Post by kaboobie92 on Jul 30, 2008 6:16:12 GMT -5
I don't think our military is number one in the world. I think they're very good and very well-trained, but I think if we ended up in a war with China for example, there is a very real possibility of them cleaning our clocks. It's good to have pride in your armed forces, but as the Bible says "pride is before a crash." We've had our victories and our humiliations. It's important to avoid not just underestimating the enemy, but overestimating our ability as well. I see our armed forces as beeing tooled and trained (for the most part) to fight regimented enemies, the formal armies of other nations. We won the American Revolution against a military power with far greater training, tactics, and overall fire power using guerilla tactics. There is hardly any defense against a roadside bomb or people shooting at you from deep cover. Going up against that is why it takes a hell of a lot of guts to be a soldier. Like I said, be proud of your soldiers, just don't delude yourself into thinking they're invincible. You're a effing moron. I'll concede that China might have a formidable ground Army, but a war with them would likely be mostly won in the air, where we have the superiority. This is the part that pisses me off, when you said that there's no defense for roadside bombs, or counter-insurgent tactics. Who the eff do you think you are? You are a complete effing moron. the defense against roadside bombs is better armor as well as other tools implemented that I cant really discuss, becuase I'm not sure if it's a violation of opsec or not. Also, what do you think we've been doing all this time, sitting there with our thumbs up our asses waiting for terrorists to attack us. No, there has been extensive counter-insurgency training that I've personally taken part of and I can tell you we are much more prepared to fight a guerilla style war than you think. Why must you make it a habit to talk out of your ass all the time? If you're going to make stupid claims, trying finding a little research to back up your bullshit....oh, right....you can't. You dont know shit about the military or its tactics, stop trying to talk like you do or I will continue to rip you a new a-hole on a daily basis. All i can say is that it is about damn time you found this thread. I agree with you 100% |
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Post by kaboobie92 on Jul 30, 2008 6:38:13 GMT -5
So Biff, your "proof" is a bunch of quotes from congresspeople who were fed all their information from the Bush administration? All that proves is that a lot of people THOUGHT he had WMDs, not that he actually had them at the time. Yes, because i'm sure John Kerry and Bill Clinton found their information from the bush admin. |
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Post by wienerpoopie on Jul 30, 2008 7:36:12 GMT -5
I don't think our military is number one in the world. I think they're very good and very well-trained, but I think if we ended up in a war with China for example, there is a very real possibility of them cleaning our clocks. It's good to have pride in your armed forces, but as the Bible says "pride is before a crash." We've had our victories and our humiliations. It's important to avoid not just underestimating the enemy, but overestimating our ability as well. I see our armed forces as beeing tooled and trained (for the most part) to fight regimented enemies, the formal armies of other nations. We won the American Revolution against a military power with far greater training, tactics, and overall fire power using guerilla tactics. There is hardly any defense against a roadside bomb or people shooting at you from deep cover. Going up against that is why it takes a hell of a lot of guts to be a soldier. Like I said, be proud of your soldiers, just don't delude yourself into thinking they're invincible. You're a effing moron. I'll concede that China might have a formidable ground Army, but a war with them would likely be mostly won in the air, where we have the superiority. This is the part that pisses me off, when you said that there's no defense for roadside bombs, or counter-insurgent tactics. Who the eff do you think you are? You are a complete effing moron. the defense against roadside bombs is better armor as well as other tools implemented that I cant really discuss, becuase I'm not sure if it's a violation of opsec or not. Also, what do you think we've been doing all this time, sitting there with our thumbs up our asses waiting for terrorists to attack us. No, there has been extensive counter-insurgency training that I've personally taken part of and I can tell you we are much more prepared to fight a guerilla style war than you think. Why must you make it a habit to talk out of your ass all the time? If you're going to make stupid claims, trying finding a little research to back up your bullshit....oh, right....you can't. You dont know shit about the military or its tactics, stop trying to talk like you do or I will continue to rip you a new a-hole on a daily basis. Hey expert on everything under the sun; the government has added armor to the hummers and roadside bombs still destroy them…actually they’re powerful enough to disable tanks. And there is no way in hell the U.S. could beat China in a war, they have twice the military personnel as we do…they have between active, reserve, and paramilitary troops 7 million we have 3 million. But because I don’t know anything about military tactics, General Awesome, fill me in some more of your great information. |
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Post by wienerpoopie on Jul 30, 2008 8:12:06 GMT -5
I don't think our military is number one in the world. I think they're very good and very well-trained, but I think if we ended up in a war with China for example, there is a very real possibility of them cleaning our clocks. It's good to have pride in your armed forces, but as the Bible says "pride is before a crash." We've had our victories and our humiliations. It's important to avoid not just underestimating the enemy, but overestimating our ability as well. I see our armed forces as beeing tooled and trained (for the most part) to fight regimented enemies, the formal armies of other nations. We won the American Revolution against a military power with far greater training, tactics, and overall fire power using guerilla tactics. There is hardly any defense against a roadside bomb or people shooting at you from deep cover. Going up against that is why it takes a hell of a lot of guts to be a soldier. Like I said, be proud of your soldiers, just don't delude yourself into thinking they're invincible. the defense against roadside bombs is better armor as well as other tools implemented that I cant really discuss, becuase I'm not sure if it's a violation of opsec or not. |
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Post by scooterfanatic on Jul 30, 2008 9:19:45 GMT -5
I don't think our military is number one in the world. I think they're very good and very well-trained, but I think if we ended up in a war with China for example, there is a very real possibility of them cleaning our clocks. It's good to have pride in your armed forces, but as the Bible says "pride is before a crash." We've had our victories and our humiliations. It's important to avoid not just underestimating the enemy, but overestimating our ability as well. I see our armed forces as beeing tooled and trained (for the most part) to fight regimented enemies, the formal armies of other nations. We won the American Revolution against a military power with far greater training, tactics, and overall fire power using guerilla tactics. There is hardly any defense against a roadside bomb or people shooting at you from deep cover. Going up against that is why it takes a hell of a lot of guts to be a soldier. Like I said, be proud of your soldiers, just don't delude yourself into thinking they're invincible. "Be proud of your soldiers".. What the eff? As if they aren't your soldiers too? You obviously don't appreciate the troops, so maybe you should just move somewhere else. OH MY GOD LETS NITPICK MINOR GRAMMATICAL DICTION So I guess If I tell someone they should "support your local sherriff" that means I don't support him and don't consider him my sherriff? Ass. |
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Post by Fistor on Jul 30, 2008 11:03:22 GMT -5
Sorry Fistor, I've read alot of your posts and you seem too be pretty cool but in this case I disagree. If every radical militant Muslim were too commit suicide in two minutes guess what? There would be NO MORE radical militant Muslims left too strap on suicide bombs, set up IED's or too hijack jet liners etc etc etc too do innocent people harm. If they would like to commit suicide at the business end of an M16 or Abrams tank well bully for them. I've got a better idea. why don't they all just go home, take care of their family's and quit trying too destroy our soldiers and WE ALL would be better off. Because they want to be martyred and take out as many members of the "Great Satan" as they possibly can. We can't just annihilate every radical muslim - they don't run around with signs on their heads distiguishing themselves from the rest of Islam. What you are proposing is perpetual war, at the cost of trillions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of American lives. You may be gung-ho for that, but I am not. Because there would never be an end to it. Oh and as far as 9/11 having nothing too do with Iraq well sorry again. Don't you remember that just after U.S. forces pushed past Bag-dad that they uncovered and shut down dozens of terrorist training camps and in at least one or more of Saddam's Palaces were murals of the World trade center. Hummmmm I wonder why those were there. 1+1=2 I'm convinced that Saddam probably partied hard for weeks on the news that terrorists were successful in making a blow against the "Great Satan". Sorry Fistor, we'll have to agree to disagree on this one The pilots of the planes were Saudi, not Iraqi. The mastermind of the operation was Osama Bin Laden, not Saddam Hussein. We went to war fueled by our passion to avenge 9/11, and ended up fighting a completely different war, thanks mostly to Bush's tireless effort to tie 9/11 to Iraq. |
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Post by kaboobie92 on Jul 30, 2008 12:35:25 GMT -5
where are your sources fistor?
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Post by scooterfanatic on Jul 30, 2008 12:38:49 GMT -5
where are your sources fistor? Are you really asking for sources to prove Osama Bin Laden was the mastermind behind 9/11 and the hijackers involved were comprised mainly of Saudi and Egyptian nationals? |
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Post by wienerpoopie on Jul 30, 2008 12:46:21 GMT -5
where are your sources fistor? "Fifteen of the attackers were from Saudi Arabia, two from the United Arab Emirates, one from Egypt, and one from Lebanon.[79] In sharp contrast to the standard profile of suicide bombers, the hijackers were well-educated, mature adults, whose belief systems were fully formed.[80]" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11,_2001_attacks Use Google for more info… |
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Post by speedbump on Jul 30, 2008 12:48:39 GMT -5
where are your sources fistor? "Fifteen of the attackers were from Saudi Arabia, two from the United Arab Emirates, one from Egypt, and one from Lebanon.[79] In sharp contrast to the standard profile of suicide bombers, the hijackers were well-educated, mature adults, whose belief systems were fully formed.[80]" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11,_2001_attacks Use Google for more info… He's going to have a shit fit you got your information from Wikipedia, just wait for it... |
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Post by wienerpoopie on Jul 30, 2008 12:51:19 GMT -5
I know but he can use Google for another 500 sources
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Post by kaboobie92 on Jul 30, 2008 12:53:11 GMT -5
where are your sources fistor? Are you really asking for sources to prove Osama Bin Laden was the mastermind behind 9/11 and the hijackers involved were comprised mainly of Saudi and Egyptian nationals? Where is his proof that Sadaam wasn't involved? Let me guess, you got this info from the news. |
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Post by wienerpoopie on Jul 30, 2008 12:55:47 GMT -5
Are you really asking for sources to prove Osama Bin Laden was the mastermind behind 9/11 and the hijackers involved were comprised mainly of Saudi and Egyptian nationals? Where is his proof that Sadaam wasn't involved? Let me guess, you got this info from the news. You’re on the internet now use effin Google and find something to prove him wrong! |
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Post by The Biff Lebowski on Jul 30, 2008 12:56:09 GMT -5
Where is his proof that Sadaam wasn't involved? Let me guess, you got this info from the news.  |
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Post by wienerpoopie on Jul 30, 2008 12:57:11 GMT -5
Where is his proof that Sadaam wasn't involved? Let me guess, you got this info from the news. May I have some? |
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