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Post by jaydethespaz on Aug 7, 2008 17:46:07 GMT -5
Yea my uncle just got back. I really think that the war is stupid, but no one has the right to rip on the people that do go over there and either get really F-ed up or die while people here sit on their couch and bitch about it. If anyone rips on someone like that, they can all go to hell! I exalt you man! See I knew this would happen. I knew people would just read the title and a few choice sentences and totally miss the point of what I was saying. I knew they'd do that because that's what they wanted to think in the first place. Saying that the troops aren't fighting for my freedom in this one instance does not mean that I hate the troops or even what they actually are doing in Iraq. It does not mean that I don't think they are even doing good things over in Iraq and it does not mean that I don't applaud them for doing that. I love the troops just as much as anybody else. I just love them for what they actually are doing. Soldiers protect my freedom in general by being ready and willing to fight against actual threats to it, but saying that they are fighting in Iraq for my freedom is like saying they are warding tigers away from my house. I'm not threatened by Tigers in the first place, and Iraq was not threatening my freedom in 2003. Osama Bin Laden is the one who threatens my freedom, and he is the one that needs to be focused on. He is the mastermind of 9/11, so why is he not a "priority" to Mr. Bush? I honestly read the whole thing. But the war is a touchy subject for me because my uncle got injured in baghdad or however the hell you spell it. But enough about that, i was also wondering where the F@$k Osama was as well. Anybody have suggestions on where he at?
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Post by jaydethespaz on Aug 7, 2008 17:47:58 GMT -5
If you look at Bush's track-record, he's not competent to be in charge of anything other than a baseball team. You sure about that? I don't think he is! lol Bush is not fit to run ANYTHING AT ALL! Sorry to all you die hard republicans
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Post by Mad Dog on Aug 8, 2008 4:19:31 GMT -5
You technically right saying it was easier to "fool a nation" back then, but in reality I don't think Franklin D. Roosevelt(d) was trying to fool anybody. As soon as Japan bombed Pearl Harbor everybody knew the drill. It may have taken a couple of months to actually declare war on Germany, but since Germany and Japan were Allies, it was only a matter of time before we were at war with Germany, and everyone except the staunchest pacifist knew it. I say that is pretty comparable with Afghanistan and Iraq. That's not what I said. People were less informed about current events then, than they are now. The German people were told what to think and read. The Gov controled all media. It wasn't like that here(USA) Sorry i mis-read you. I've done that a couple of times lately. As far as the German people are concerned, I think that they had a number of issues going on, and naivety was about third or fourth on the top ten list, not to say to say it wasn't important. Not that it wasn't their own fault but their economy was so bad, ALOT of people were busy just trying to survive to really give much attention to what Hitler was doing. Second, anti-semitisum totally ran rampant outside the Jewish community and Hitler just tapped into that vibe and took it way past the next level. Third, once Hitler hit his stride, abject fear in the general population vs god-complex in the ruling minority kept the population in line. The rest is history.
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Post by plungerhand on Aug 8, 2008 10:18:06 GMT -5
That's not what I said. People were less informed about current events then, than they are now. The German people were told what to think and read. The Gov controled all media. It wasn't like that here(USA) Sorry i mis-read you. I've done that a couple of times lately. As far as the German people are concerned, I think that they had a number of issues going on, and naivety was about third or fourth on the top ten list, not to say to say it wasn't important. Not that it wasn't their own fault but their economy was so bad, ALOT of people were busy just trying to survive to really give much attention to what Hitler was doing. Second, anti-semitisum totally ran rampant outside the Jewish community and Hitler just tapped into that vibe and took it way past the next level. Third, once Hitler hit his stride, abject fear in the general population vs god-complex in the ruling minority kept the population in line. The rest is history. It's easy to be misunderstood when typing and not speaking. I also am guilty of mis-reading. It happens.
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