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Post by dasbow on Aug 11, 2008 9:39:30 GMT -5
Personally, my biggest block to accepting Christianity, or any religion, is the Bible. It's a book. Written words passed along from generation to genreation, and supposedly not one word has been changed or altered. I just can't buy that. I want to know who witnessed Genesis and wrote it down. |
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Post by providencecrow on Aug 11, 2008 17:22:42 GMT -5
Personally, my biggest block to accepting Christianity, or any religion, is the Bible. It's a book. Written words passed along from generation to genreation, and supposedly not one word has been changed or altered. I just can't buy that. I agree, look at what happens in a game of telephone with 10 people in about 2 minutes with a simple sentence like "The school bus is full of rapists" That would be a fun one actually...i should try it. |
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Post by Mad Dog on Aug 11, 2008 20:43:46 GMT -5
Its a riddle wrapped in an enigma in an unknowable little package. How on one hand we have totally freewill yet God sets up everything for His own good. How God is omnipresent, all knowing, and all powerful, yet surprisingly aloof. Instead of where's Waldo, it's become where's God? Is he in your heart? Is he in the trees? Is he in outer space? Is he nowhere? Is he everywhere? Is he real? Is he a figment of our collective imaginations? This is why I am agnostic. Who really knows. Maybe he exists, Maybe he doesn't. If you know in your heart he does, well then he does. If you haven't yet been convinced, well then he doesn't. Open the eyes of your heart and allow him to come in. It's awesome!! Let me ask you a question maddog . . . do you have that little voice in your head that talks to you sometimes? Like when you start to do something and the little voice says, "you know better" or "maybe I need to think a little more before doing this"? If so, then there is a God in your world. That's Him!! He is always present and accounted for!! Yes and once during a particularly tough time in my life just prior to becoming a Christian, while I was very distraught I literally saw a light and heard a voice that said "peace be still the Lord is working " I have since dismissed it as a mind trick due to a nervous break down. |
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Post by lovegrenade on Aug 13, 2008 8:20:22 GMT -5
What is the point in believing in something that does nothing otherwise? Wouldn’t he alter the universe to benefit those that believe in him? Someone school me in God’s powers… This is probably your biggest stumbling block to faith and I can completely understand your opposition to same. Who would want to love a god who controlled their every action? Would you as a parent try to control every thought and action of your child? Of course not. Neither does God. ...and who would want to love a god that is going to send you to hell to burn for eternity if you don't love him? How is that free will? "Yeah, go ahead and do whatever you want, you have free will, just remember, I'm going to let you suffer more than you can possibly imagine." The whole idea just seems ridiculous to me the more I think about. |
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Post by Queenie on Aug 13, 2008 8:24:14 GMT -5
This is probably your biggest stumbling block to faith and I can completely understand your opposition to same. Who would want to love a god who controlled their every action? Would you as a parent try to control every thought and action of your child? Of course not. Neither does God. ...and who would want to love a god that is going to send you to hell to burn for eternity if you don't love him? How is that free will? "Yeah, go ahead and do whatever you want, you have free will, just remember, I'm going to let you suffer more than you can possibly imagine." The whole idea just seems ridiculous to me the more I think about. God doesn't send you there . . . you make that decision (and trip)all on your own. He makes a valliant effort, whether you choose to accept and believe in Him is your "free will". Do you have children?? Well I do, and I know that I love them very much and try to guide and teach them the proper ways of life, however, they do not always do the right thing. That is their choice, and they get to face the consequences of their actions, just as everybody does. |
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Post by The Biff Lebowski on Aug 13, 2008 8:32:12 GMT -5
...and who would want to love a god that is going to send you to hell to burn for eternity if you don't love him? How is that free will? "Yeah, go ahead and do whatever you want, you have free will, just remember, I'm going to let you suffer more than you can possibly imagine." The whole idea just seems ridiculous to me the more I think about. Sounds like free will to me. |
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Post by lovegrenade on Aug 13, 2008 8:37:21 GMT -5
...and who would want to love a god that is going to send you to hell to burn for eternity if you don't love him? How is that free will? "Yeah, go ahead and do whatever you want, you have free will, just remember, I'm going to let you suffer more than you can possibly imagine." The whole idea just seems ridiculous to me the more I think about. God doesn't send you there . . . you make that decision (and trip)all on your own. He makes a valliant effort, whether you choose to accept and believe in Him is your "free will". Do you have children?? Well I do, and I know that I love them very much and try to guide and teach them the proper ways of life, however, they do not always do the right thing. That is their choice, and they get to face the consequences of their actions, just as everybody does. If god is suppossedly all-powerful, and he judges people and decides that they go to hell to suffer for eternity if they don't worship him, than wouldn't that make him a Terrorist? He makes demands, and promises an eternity of torture for those who do not meet those demands. Or god doesn't exist and religion is just a disturbing fairy tale that only continues through the repeated brainwashing of children. |
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Post by wienerpoopie on Aug 13, 2008 8:38:48 GMT -5
I don't wanna grow up, I'm a Toys R' Us kid. A million toys to choose from, that I can play with. From bikes to trikes and video games, its the biggest toy stor there is. GEE WIZ! I don't wanna grow up, cuz baby if I did....I wouldn't be a toys r' us kid!
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Post by Queenie on Aug 13, 2008 8:45:06 GMT -5
I don't wanna grow up, I'm a Toys R' Us kid. A million toys to choose from, that I can play with. From bikes to trikes and video games, its the biggest toy stor there is. GEE WIZ! I don't wanna grow up, cuz baby if I did....I wouldn't be a toys r' us kid! Unfortunately, you already have . . . you can't even remember the theme song . . . it's bikes and trains and video games.  |
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Post by wienerpoopie on Aug 13, 2008 8:47:21 GMT -5
You have officially burst my bubble Queen  |
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Post by Queenie on Aug 13, 2008 8:59:17 GMT -5
You have officially burst my bubble Queen Awwww . . .that's okay Poopie . . . God still loves you!!  |
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Post by lovegrenade on Aug 13, 2008 12:46:05 GMT -5
You have officially burst my bubble Queen Awwww . . .that's okay Poopie . . . God still loves you!! ....but, you're still going to burn in hell for all eternity. Sorry about that Wiener Poopie, but at least you know he still loves you... |
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Post by Queenie on Aug 13, 2008 12:58:28 GMT -5
Awwww . . .that's okay Poopie . . . God still loves you!! ....but, you're still going to burn in hell for all eternity. Sorry about that Wiener Poopie, but at least you know he still loves you... Thanks for the positive comment . . . now go back to your corner.  |
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Post by Fuck Bill Simonson on Aug 13, 2008 13:01:29 GMT -5
Awwww . . .that's okay Poopie . . . God still loves you!! ....but, you're still going to burn in hell for all eternity. Sorry about that Wiener Poopie, but at least you know he still loves you... Looks like you're only interested in starting a fight. |
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Post by lovegrenade on Aug 13, 2008 13:08:14 GMT -5
Nah, I just didn't want the Queen of Whore Island giving Wiener Poopie false hope...
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Post by wienerpoopie on Aug 13, 2008 13:10:23 GMT -5
I going to convert on my deathbed…will that work QWI?
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Post by kaboobie92 on Aug 13, 2008 13:12:10 GMT -5
lovegrenade, no matter what anybody says you won't believe it. What's the point of trying? You need an open mind to see God. If you keep your mind closed and shut Him out, then how would you expect to find Him? You can't. And i suppose it makes more sense that the world has just always been here? or it just magically appeared with an explosion? Those make no sense.
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Post by Queenie on Aug 13, 2008 13:13:36 GMT -5
I going to convert on my deathbed…will that work QWI? Hope you have time. Seriously, like I told you before, God is always standing with open arms waiting for you to come home. He would never think to ever turn you away. |
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Post by Fuck Bill Simonson on Aug 13, 2008 13:14:23 GMT -5
Nah, I just didn't want the Queen of Whore Island giving Wiener Poopie false hope... Bull fucking shit. |
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Post by Queenie on Aug 13, 2008 13:21:15 GMT -5
Nah, I just didn't want the Queen of Whore Island giving Wiener Poopie false hope... Who said you could come out of the corner? You might need to be worried about yourself. You just let Poopie decide for himself. |
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Post by lovegrenade on Aug 13, 2008 13:26:21 GMT -5
lovegrenade, no matter what anybody says you won't believe it. What's the point of trying? You need an open mind to see God. If you keep your mind closed and shut Him out, then how would you expect to find Him? You can't. And i suppose it makes more sense that the world has just always been here? or it just magically appeared with an explosion? Those make no sense. This actually made me laugh a little bit because of how ironic it is when I think back on how I came to be a non-believer. I was a close-minded Catholic up until I was in my 20's. Then I actually opened my mind to evidence and stopped blindly following the faith that I had been indoctrinated with since the day I was born. You're very argument itself makes no sense if you truly think about it. Instead of believing that the world always was, or that it "magically" appeared, you take an even further leap by suggesting that a magical being always existed, and it magically formed the universe. Don't get me wrong, I understand where you're coming from, because I used to make the same arguments. |
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Post by wienerpoopie on Aug 13, 2008 13:29:10 GMT -5
lovegrenade, no matter what anybody says you won't believe it. What's the point of trying? You need an open mind to see God. If you keep your mind closed and shut Him out, then how would you expect to find Him? You can't. And i suppose it makes more sense that the world has just always been here? or it just magically appeared with an explosion? Those make no sense. This actually made me laugh a little bit because of how ironic it is when I think back on how I came to be a non-believer. I was a close-minded Catholic up until I was in my 20's. Then I actually opened my mind to evidence and stopped blindly following the faith that I had been indoctrinated with since the day I was born. You're very argument itself makes no sense if you truly think about it. Instead of believing that the world always was, or that it "magically" appeared, you take an even further leap by suggesting that a magical being always existed, and it magically formed the universe. Don't get me wrong, I understand where you're coming from, because I used to make the same arguments.  |
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Post by Queenie on Aug 13, 2008 13:30:05 GMT -5
Nah, I just didn't want the Queen of Whore Island giving Wiener Poopie false hope... Bull effing shit. Uhhh . . . lighten up. We're all friends on here. |
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Post by Queenie on Aug 13, 2008 13:31:08 GMT -5
You never cease to amaze me. |
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Post by wienerpoopie on Aug 13, 2008 13:32:17 GMT -5
Jesus on a dinosaur! That’s golden
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Post by lovegrenade on Aug 13, 2008 13:33:09 GMT -5
Uhhh . . . lighten up. We're all friends on here. Ha, he is the best sarcasm picker-upper ever. |
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Post by lovegrenade on Aug 13, 2008 13:34:56 GMT -5
Jesus on a dinosaur! That’s golden Even goldener!  |
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Post by Queenie on Aug 13, 2008 13:40:55 GMT -5
Uhhh . . . lighten up. We're all friends on here. Ha, he is the best sarcasm picker-upper ever.  |
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Post by wienerpoopie on Aug 13, 2008 13:41:04 GMT -5
Ha, I love the coloring hints
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Post by lovegrenade on Aug 13, 2008 13:45:21 GMT -5
I know, I just wish that I could have found my Crayola Flesh of Christ crayon.
Unfortunately I had to settle for Heathen Tan.
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