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Post by wienerpoopie on Aug 7, 2008 12:38:01 GMT -5
From the Murder of Tim McLean (guy on Canadian bus) These are the same churches that picket at the funerals of U.S. soldiers. Fred Phelps' Westboro Baptist Church announced on August 5, 2008 that they would picket the funeral of Tim McLean, stating: “ God is punishing Canada, for passing laws against WBC - by exposing Canadians as cannibals and highway decapitators. WBC prays for more and worse calamaties from God. We'll picket their funerals. ” This kind of shit makes me sick… en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church |
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Post by Queenie on Aug 7, 2008 12:41:53 GMT -5
Yeah but you can't blame God for the acts of stupid people. God does not make bad things happen, bad people do. There are a lot of misguided so called "christians" out there. But just because the church they belong to support and assembles this type of behavior does not mean that God had a hand in it.
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Post by Fistor on Aug 7, 2008 12:42:09 GMT -5
Calling attention to them is exactly what they want, which is why they try to be more and more outlandish.
They protested a soldier's funeral here in Hudsonville last year (or the year before). A bunch of Harley riders placed themselves between the protesters and the church and reved their engines so that the protesters could not be heard. I guess these Harley riders follow these idiots around and do the same all over the place. Pretty cool.
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Post by kaboobie92 on Aug 7, 2008 12:44:38 GMT -5
Yeah but you can't blame God for the acts of stupid people. God does not make bad things happen, bad people do. There are a lot of misguided so called "christians" out there. But just because the church they belong to support and assembles this type of behavior does not mean that God had a hand in it. Couldn't have said it better myself. |
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Post by Queenie on Aug 7, 2008 12:45:14 GMT -5
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Post by wienerpoopie on Aug 7, 2008 12:47:39 GMT -5
Yeah but you can't blame God for the acts of stupid people. God does not make bad things happen, bad people do. There are a lot of misguided so called "christians" out there. But just because the church they belong to support and assembles this type of behavior does not mean that God had a hand in it. But my question is would god allow people to perform these acts using his name? If yes he is evil, if no then I believe he is in the wrong for not striking them down where they stand. |
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Post by The Biff Lebowski on Aug 7, 2008 12:48:30 GMT -5
Yeah but you can't blame God for the acts of stupid people. God does not make bad things happen, bad people do. There are a lot of misguided so called "christians" out there. But just because the church they belong to support and assembles this type of behavior does not mean that God had a hand in it. But my question is would god allow people to perform these acts using his name? If yes he is evil, if no then I believe he is in the wrong for not striking them down were they stand. So your perception of God is that he controls your every action and he makes you do good and bad things? |
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Post by Howie Feltersnatch on Aug 7, 2008 12:52:39 GMT -5
Yeah but you can't blame God for the acts of stupid people. God does not make bad things happen, bad people do. There are a lot of misguided so called "christians" out there. But just because the church they belong to support and assembles this type of behavior does not mean that God had a hand in it. But my question is would god allow people to perform these acts using his name? If yes he is evil, if no then I believe he is in the wrong for not striking them down where they stand. We are left to lead our own lives....nothing happens until we die then it's judgement time. I want Lionell Hutz to defend me  |
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Post by wienerpoopie on Aug 7, 2008 12:54:16 GMT -5
But my question is would god allow people to perform these acts using his name? If yes he is evil, if no then I believe he is in the wrong for not striking them down were they stand. So your perception of God is that he controls your every action and he makes you do good and bad things? What is the point in believing in something that does nothing otherwise? Wouldn’t he alter the universe to benefit those that believe in him? Someone school me in God’s powers… |
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Post by Queenie on Aug 7, 2008 12:58:30 GMT -5
Yeah but you can't blame God for the acts of stupid people. God does not make bad things happen, bad people do. There are a lot of misguided so called "christians" out there. But just because the church they belong to support and assembles this type of behavior does not mean that God had a hand in it. But my question is would god allow people to perform these acts using his name? If yes he is evil, if no then I believe he is in the wrong for not striking them down where they stand. Have you ever done something that is against God's principles? I would have to answer that for you and say yes. Do you then, Mr. Poopie, think it's okay that God has allowed you to live your life as you see fit and not strike you down in your tracks, but that He is wrong for not striking down these protesters? We have freedom of speech in our world, and anybody can say they are fighting for any person or cause they want. We decide our own selves when we get up each morning whether it is going to be a good day or a bad day, whether we will be pleasant or rude, whether we will be helpful or a hindrance. Our own individual lives are what we individually make them. God has no power over free will. |
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Post by Howie Feltersnatch on Aug 7, 2008 13:03:51 GMT -5
But my question is would god allow people to perform these acts using his name? If yes he is evil, if no then I believe he is in the wrong for not striking them down where they stand. God has no power over free will. Like the fairly odd parents.... |
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Post by dasbow on Aug 7, 2008 13:04:06 GMT -5
Calling attention to them is exactly what they want, which is why they try to be more and more outlandish. They protested a soldier's funeral here in Hudsonville last year (or the year before). A bunch of Harley riders placed themselves between the protesters and the church and reved their engines so that the protesters could not be heard. I guess these Harley riders follow these idiots around and do the same all over the place. Pretty cool. They call themselves the Patriot Guard Riders. FB&HW interviewed the man who sued the Westboro assholes (and won!!) for trying to disrupt his son's funeral. www.nytimes.com/2007/11/01/us/01funeral.htmlThe Patriot Guard does a great job keeping the lunatics at bay without violence. That prevents the Westboro jackasses from being able to sue municipalities, which one of the ways they finance themselves. www.patriotguard.org/ |
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Post by Queenie on Aug 7, 2008 13:07:00 GMT -5
God has no power over free will. Like the fairly odd parents.... Awesome show . . . but no. |
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Post by Allyson on Aug 7, 2008 13:08:24 GMT -5
I am a fairly rational and easy-going person. But I would truly commit a terrorist act against WBC.
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Post by The Biff Lebowski on Aug 7, 2008 13:09:12 GMT -5
What is the point in believing in something that does nothing otherwise? Wouldn’t he alter the universe to benefit those that believe in him? Someone school me in God’s powers… This is probably your biggest stumbling block to faith and I can completely understand your opposition to same. Who would want to love a god who controlled their every action? Would you as a parent try to control every thought and action of your child? Of course not. Neither does God. |
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Post by wienerpoopie on Aug 7, 2008 13:12:04 GMT -5
But my question is would god allow people to perform these acts using his name? If yes he is evil, if no then I believe he is in the wrong for not striking them down where they stand. Have you ever done something that is against God's principles? I would have to answer that for you and say yes. Do you then, Mr. Poopie, think it's okay that God has allowed you to live your life as you see fit and not strike you down in your tracks, but that He is wrong for not striking down these protesters? We have freedom of speech in our world, and anybody can say they are fighting for any person or cause they want. We decide our own selves when we get up each morning whether it is going to be a good day or a bad day, whether we will be pleasant or rude, whether we will be helpful or a hindrance. Our own individual lives are what we individually make them. God has no power over free will. Freedom of speech and our country has nothing to do with it; this is God vs. that church. What if that church has 2 million members in five years? Are there suddenly two gods, one that believes U.S. soldiers go to hell and another that don’t? |
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Post by Howie Feltersnatch on Aug 7, 2008 13:17:52 GMT -5
I am a fairly rational and easy-going person. But I would truly commit a terrorist act against WBC. i've got camo...and access to manure |
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Post by Queenie on Aug 7, 2008 13:51:08 GMT -5
There is only one God Poopie. Was David Koresh God? No, yet he has several followers and God did not strike him down, the ATF did. Was Jim Jones God? No, yet he had a mass following of almost 1000 and God did not strike him down, he did it himself and decided to take his followers' lives as well and they allowed it because they believed in him.
Why do you not believe in God? What are your bases?
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Post by wienerpoopie on Aug 7, 2008 13:58:33 GMT -5
If there is one god and 1000 churches how do you know you have the correct one? My life is going rather smooth without being told how to live every Sunday morning so I will stick with what I know…nothing…
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Post by kaboobie92 on Aug 7, 2008 14:07:55 GMT -5
Believing in God has nothing to do with what Church you go to. Its a personal relationship. Christians dont have to go to church to be saved. Church is so you can have fellowship with other believers, learn more about God, and worship.
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Post by Queenie on Aug 7, 2008 14:17:50 GMT -5
If there is one god and 1000 churches how do you know you have the correct one? My life is going rather smooth without being told how to live every Sunday morning so I will stick with what I know…nothing… There are churches that do not try to "interpret" the Bible as they see fit. They do not "say" that this passage means "this" just so they can conduct themselves as they want to. Do you know how many Pastors/Ministers/Preachers/Priests have been called to full-time duty by God to minister to His people. Probably 100's of 1000's. But do you also know how many truly do as God has asked them to and to totally devote their lives to Him? Not many. If you truly want to find a church that you can even begin to trust, you must first find a Pastor/Minister/Preacher/Priest that devotes the time needed to talk to God and to minister on what He wants them to minister. The man of God that inspired me with regard to religion more than anyone in my life is Pastor Ron Baptiste. To truly interpret the Bible, you must let God into your heart and I don't mean by getting baptised. I mean by letting Him guide you while you read. The very first sermon I heard him preach, Pastor Ron told me that you had to have a passion to read the Bible and I thought, no way. I have opened it so many times and not known where to begin. Then I tried again and again and finally, opened my heart and heard God. Wow, he'll interpret the Bible for you. And you will NOT always like it. But it is a manual for living. It teaches you what to do and how to do it and has every subject from relationships to finances and how to get the optimum results for any and every part of your life. Check out this link: www.cbn.com/700club/features/amazing/Ron_Baptiste041607.aspxBut just in case you don't, this is a quote from Pastor Ron. One that has always stuck in my mind and heart: "Just because you've done some things, God doesn't stop loving you. He hasn't turned His back on you. God is waiting on you. He wants to heal you, restore you and bring you back to where He's always intended for you to be.” |
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Post by Queenie on Aug 7, 2008 14:18:56 GMT -5
Believing in God has nothing to do with what Church you go to. Its a personal relationship. Christians dont have to go to church to be saved. Church is so you can have fellowship with other believers, learn more about God, and worship. The church is there to help you stayed focus and on the path to rightousness. It is easier to take the wrong path (only a detour) if you do not surround yourself with other believers. |
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Post by Joe's Schwantz on Aug 7, 2008 14:25:00 GMT -5
I can't believe that these families that have had their faily member's funerals disrupted don't do something to those people. I'd throw down if they were picketing at my child/family member's funeral. I don't understand what drives these people to do that. They must be inbred.
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Post by wienerpoopie on Aug 7, 2008 14:29:31 GMT -5
I can't believe that these families that have had their faily member's funerals disrupted don't do something to those people. I'd throw down if they were picketing at my child/family member's funeral. I don't understand what drives these people to do that. They must be inbred. You're right! Did this church originate from Orangeville? |
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Post by Queenie on Aug 7, 2008 14:39:24 GMT -5
I can't believe that these families that have had their faily member's funerals disrupted don't do something to those people. I'd throw down if they were picketing at my child/family member's funeral. I don't understand what drives these people to do that. They must be inbred. They don't seek revenge because revenge is not ours to take. We can't do anything near what God will do to these people. No Poopie he won't strike them down, be he will leave them and their lives in dispair. |
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Post by The Biff Lebowski on Aug 7, 2008 14:50:09 GMT -5
I can't believe that these families that have had their faily member's funerals disrupted don't do something to those people. I'd throw down if they were picketing at my child/family member's funeral. I don't understand what drives these people to do that. They must be inbred. There are families who do and they are subsequently sued which gives this "church" the financial ability to continue on with this crap. |
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Post by wienerpoopie on Aug 7, 2008 14:52:04 GMT -5
I can't believe that these families that have had their faily member's funerals disrupted don't do something to those people. I'd throw down if they were picketing at my child/family member's funeral. I don't understand what drives these people to do that. They must be inbred. There are families who do and they are subsequently sued which gives this "church" the financial ability to continue on with this crap. I hear that is their main source of income  |
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Post by The Biff Lebowski on Aug 7, 2008 14:57:55 GMT -5
One of my favorite moments in the history of this church was when the insane daughter of this shithole church went on Hannity and Colmes. Alan had the best line ever. www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UMP3AK5jwoYou can fast forward to 2:34 for the summary of the nuttiness and Alan's response. |
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Post by plungerhand on Aug 7, 2008 15:04:26 GMT -5
Who wants to be on their team?? Sick
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Post by Howie Feltersnatch on Aug 7, 2008 15:23:54 GMT -5
One of my favorite moments in the history of this church was when the insane daughter of this shithole church went on Hannity and Colmes. Alan had the best line ever. www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UMP3AK5jwoYou can fast forward to 2:34 for the summary of the nuttiness and Alan's response. I like the idea of that Shirley Phelps' head on the body of Abomination from the new Hulk film.... FUCKTARD make it happen! |
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