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Post by lokizilla on Sept 8, 2008 10:05:18 GMT -5
I'm a Christian and very conservative. I'm sorry, but that just sounds like a statement at an addiction support meeting. ;D ;D Hi my name is Joe. I'm a Christian and very conservative. HI JOE!!! Got to say that made me laugh so hard when I read it. Oh yeah, also very blunt and to the point...say no more than the point needs to get across...isn't that the way of those meetings lol. |
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Post by Torque on Sept 9, 2008 19:12:22 GMT -5
video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-594683847743189197Its a long video but if people would take the time to watch it it may open a few eyes. Organized religions are about power, control, and often $$$. If you want to individually express your spirituality and faith in something in your own private way, that's great, it probably will fill a void and may inspire you to a better life. If people with similar feelings get together as a community to worship or whatever, that's fine too, but its not for everybody and doesn't put you up on a higher level than say, atheists, or any other religion. Faith is personal, trying to argue with or convert others is not virtuous. I think true atheists are more open than most people think, they basically do not believe in something for which there is no proof. They are not the same as satan worshippers, etc. not that I have anything against that either, I don't believe in god and thus I don't believe in satan either, personally. Atheists believe that humans can be innately moral without religious affiliation. I actually think if you are moral because you just THINK IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO BE, is more commendable than doing it because you think it will get you into heaven or get you a zillion pretty virgins when you die, or what have you. I was raised catholic- had to go to the classes until high school, did the whole baptism/confession/communion/comfirmation thing and by the time I was 10 or 11 it sickened me. My strongest feelings about god at that time was anger- that if he existed, he certainly didn't give a damn about all the suffering. And the whole afterlife promise does not make everything gravy in my eyes. When you die your body rots and is absorbed by the earth. Does anything else survive, a soul? I'd LOVE to believe that, I don't want to just end and go black when I die, but I personally can't create some crazy scheme with no proof just to make myself feel better. Oh, and I'm pretty "conservative" so I guess that makes me somewhat of a paradox in many eyes.
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Post by providencecrow on Sept 10, 2008 17:02:28 GMT -5
As an atheist i hate the Zeitgeist movie personally. It is a bit alarmist and does stink of "conspiracy theory" quite a bit. Even though i agree with at least the very first part of the film, i can't in good conscience recommend that anybody watch it.
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Post by Torque on Sept 10, 2008 22:36:35 GMT -5
As an atheist i hate the Zeitgeist movie personally. It is a bit alarmist and does stink of "conspiracy theory" quite a bit. Even though i agree with at least the very first part of the film, i can't in good conscience recommend that anybody watch it. In general I actually agree with you, I think a chunk of it's very useful though in showing how each religious sect who thinks they have it right and came up with it first are all pretty similar though |
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Post by landmammaldolphin on Sept 11, 2008 8:54:10 GMT -5
I'm a Christian and very conservative. I understand that you are answering the question so this is not directed at you personally, but all too often I hear the words, "I am a Christian" or "He's a good Christian Man." Every time I hear these wretched statements my judgmental side rears it's ugly head. Most of the people that are referred to as "Good Christian (men or women)" are usually some of the biggest douchebags to ever walk the earth (see George W. Bush). Those that feel the need to start a conversation with "I am a Christian" usally are morons as well. I attended a "Christian" college and after that experience, you can keep the CRC bullsheet that goes on there and in the rest of the typical CRC's. I have never seen a bigger bunch of hypocrites and brainwashed a-holes than I did there. Talk about sheeple following blindly. I realize it's called faith for a reason, but there comes a time when common sense should step in. If that doesn't happen, natural selection should step in and cure the situation, but all to often those people keep walking around saying dumb things like "I am a Christian" or talking about what a "good Christian" some douchebag they know is. I am not an atheist, I am not a christian, I am a human being and will define my own existence by my actions, not by a label of whether or not I believe that some long haired hippy died for my sins. |
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